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Board Of Trustees Tuesday, April 28, 2026 · 115 min

Bloomfield Township Board of Trustees Meeting on April 27, 2026

Summary

The city council discussed various topics, including zoning concerns, traffic enforcement, charitable gaming licenses, and infrastructure projects. They also reviewed site plans and approved several developments.

  • Residents expressed opposition to the proposed Bloomfield Hollows Event Center project due to zoning concerns and lack of transparency.
  • The city council discussed traffic enforcement, charitable gaming licenses, and consent agenda.
  • A proposed development in Taylor was approved, subject to providing a date.
  • The city council discussed police department space needs and potential renovations to the current building.
  • A special assessment roll for road paving in Bloomfield Village was discussed and approved.

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  1. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Welcome, everyone, and if you're here for public comment, first item on our agenda, you can come up to the podium on my right, your left, and we ask that you keep it to three minutes, and if you could introduce yourself with your name and address, we would appreciate that. And you might note, too, there are two, one, two, three, four public hearings later for items that are specific to those matters. Thank you. Hello, my name is Tim McGrane. I live at 163 North Berkshire Road, Bloomfield Township. I'm here to comment on the proposed project known as Bloomfield Hollows Event Center. I've spoken previously on this, and I would like to reiterate again that this zoning property of which the developer is already making forward progress is not zoned for the restaurant with a liquor license that he's proposing. Open air events, which he's proposing, or a banquet hall, which he is proposing. Further to a recent meeting, the developer is unwilling to consider any changes, and he's unwilling to drop any of these uses based on his open... house meeting. He said directly he cannot move any of these items. Developer continues to change his story to suit the situation and he wants us to trust him that we won't see or hear him which we don't believe is the case. Other than dressed up poster board presentations which he provides to us he's unable to provide the actual studies which he makes reference to but keeps saying it's going to be another two or three weeks before we can actually see them. So again I just want to reiterate that I as a resident, my family as a resident and all the residents of both North and South Berkshire are against this project the way it's been proposed and actually probably against the project as a whole but we haven't seen any changes from the original proposal as was told and I just want to keep on that that we are very adamant that the trustees respect the position of residents of Bloomfield Township and not some out-of-town business owner that's making sort of aspirations. Thank you very much. Thank you.

  2. I've spoken previously on this, and I would like to reiterate again that this zoning property of which the developer is already making forward progress is not zoned for the restaurant with a liquor license that he's proposing. Open air events, which he's proposing, or a banquet hall, which he is proposing. Further to a recent meeting, the developer is unwilling to consider any changes, and he's unwilling to drop any of these uses based on his open... house meeting. He said directly he cannot move any of these items. Developer continues to change his story to suit the situation and he wants us to trust him that we won't see or hear him which we don't believe is the case. Other than dressed up poster board presentations which he provides to us he's unable to provide the actual studies which he makes reference to but keeps saying it's going to be another two or three weeks before we can actually see them. So again I just want to reiterate that I as a resident, my family as a resident and all the residents of both North and South Berkshire are against this project the way it's been proposed and actually probably against the project as a whole but we haven't seen any changes from the original proposal as was told and I just want to keep on that that we are very adamant that the trustees respect the position of residents of Bloomfield Township and not some out-of-town business owner that's making sort of aspirations. Thank you very much. Thank you. Hi my name is Mike Vanhoef. I live at 330 North Berkshire and I did want to reflect on the same subject, Bloomfield Hollow, but focus on the meeting the Planning Commission meeting of February 16th and I had a few points that I wanted to reflect back upon that. Um you recall that there were some quite a few impassioned comments that came about on various aspects of the project during that meeting and i feel they basically boiled down to like three points that created this surprise or animosity that kind of boiled up even during that meeting and the first one was with respect to communication um the residents really felt that we were blindsided you know even though the planning commission you know sent out letters in a time frame maybe what was originally proposed was okay but then they had to move the meeting because it probably wasn't okay to consider actively informing adjacent property owners even at the design review board level and and the design review board exists as authorized by the board here and also the planning

  3. of aspirations. Thank you very much. Thank you. Hi my name is Mike Vanhoef. I live at 330 North Berkshire and I did want to reflect on the same subject, Bloomfield Hollow, but focus on the meeting the Planning Commission meeting of February 16th and I had a few points that I wanted to reflect back upon that. Um you recall that there were some quite a few impassioned comments that came about on various aspects of the project during that meeting and i feel they basically boiled down to like three points that created this surprise or animosity that kind of boiled up even during that meeting and the first one was with respect to communication um the residents really felt that we were blindsided you know even though the planning commission you know sent out letters in a time frame maybe what was originally proposed was okay but then they had to move the meeting because it probably wasn't okay to consider actively informing adjacent property owners even at the design review board level and and the design review board exists as authorized by the board here and also the planning commission you know operating under under mcl code and so why not have it just uh act in the same manner where it informs residents hey this kind of um subject is coming up we're working on this kind of proposal in your neighborhood it's going to directly impact your neighborhood so the second point is about ethics and i do feel that there was an ethics question that came up during that meeting meeting and that was with regards to um the plan planning commission member mr otto uh he uh disclosed during that meeting that he is a landowner in that same research park and yet would be voting on an ordinance to change the rules in that same research park and I think the legalese for this is called appearance of impropriety and that's the umbrella under which government has to operate because ultimately you're using our dollars to go out there and and you know fulfill topics that are relevant for us the residents and so I think that has to be something that looks that is looked at going forward because I believe that that was a concern you heard a lot of comments about that even during the meeting once that came up and the other

  4. board level and and the design review board exists as authorized by the board here and also the planning commission you know operating under under mcl code and so why not have it just uh act in the same manner where it informs residents hey this kind of um subject is coming up we're working on this kind of proposal in your neighborhood it's going to directly impact your neighborhood so the second point is about ethics and i do feel that there was an ethics question that came up during that meeting meeting and that was with regards to um the plan planning commission member mr otto uh he uh disclosed during that meeting that he is a landowner in that same research park and yet would be voting on an ordinance to change the rules in that same research park and I think the legalese for this is called appearance of impropriety and that's the umbrella under which government has to operate because ultimately you're using our dollars to go out there and and you know fulfill topics that are relevant for us the residents and so I think that has to be something that looks that is looked at going forward because I believe that that was a concern you heard a lot of comments about that even during the meeting once that came up and the other thing is about perspective we'd really like to have you take a little bit more about the residents perspective because you are using our money and you spent our money to go out and hire a consulting firm to basically kind of rubber stamp a zoning ordinance proposal that would have allowed this without ever even talking to us the residents and we feel that that is not a very smart thing to do and ultimately that's what kind of raised the ire of many of us because we don't feel that we didn't feel like we were being supported by you our governing body who are here to represent us so thank you for your time today thank you thanks hello good evening I'm Beth Kalusniak 216 North Berkshire I did attend on behalf of the neighborhood the most recent endeavor by the developer to their you know you've you You asked them to come back to us and you asked them at the last meeting to create a proposal and work with us. And at this point, they have shown that they are completely, they say that they're willing to do that. They say that they've made changes. But when you look at their original proposal and what they say they've made changes to,

  5. comments about that even during the meeting once that came up and the other thing is about perspective we'd really like to have you take a little bit more about the residents perspective because you are using our money and you spent our money to go out and hire a consulting firm to basically kind of rubber stamp a zoning ordinance proposal that would have allowed this without ever even talking to us the residents and we feel that that is not a very smart thing to do and ultimately that's what kind of raised the ire of many of us because we don't feel that we didn't feel like we were being supported by you our governing body who are here to represent us so thank you for your time today thank you thanks hello good evening I'm Beth Kalusniak 216 North Berkshire I did attend on behalf of the neighborhood the most recent endeavor by the developer to their you know you've you You asked them to come back to us and you asked them at the last meeting to create a proposal and work with us. And at this point, they have shown that they are completely, they say that they're willing to do that. They say that they've made changes. But when you look at their original proposal and what they say they've made changes to, they say they've dropped the driveway, they say they're going to put in more screening, all of that was there in the original design. We are finding that they're not responsive to our reaching out and asking for conversation. Instead, they just want to really do a presentation to try to convince us that this is a great idea for our community. And we're not denying that this is a great idea for the community. We would love to have this in our community, but not in this location. So at this point, he's shown that he's unwilling to work with us. And this is just kind of a report back so that you're aware that, you know, the direction from the township was to table that and have them work with us. And again, as my neighbor said, they have basically reiterated that this proposal, that this business case does not work except as originally proposed. And as we have mentioned, it violates the zoning. It violates the residential area. They have no information that they're able to present to us as to why this absolutely has to be there. And so we're just asking you and reporting back that we're disappointed that the developer is unwilling to work with us and we're continuing to try to reach out. But, um, at this point. But, um, at this point.

  6. But when you look at their original proposal and what they say they've made changes to, they say they've dropped the driveway, they say they're going to put in more screening, all of that was there in the original design. We are finding that they're not responsive to our reaching out and asking for conversation. Instead, they just want to really do a presentation to try to convince us that this is a great idea for our community. And we're not denying that this is a great idea for the community. We would love to have this in our community, but not in this location. So at this point, he's shown that he's unwilling to work with us. And this is just kind of a report back so that you're aware that, you know, the direction from the township was to table that and have them work with us. And again, as my neighbor said, they have basically reiterated that this proposal, that this business case does not work except as originally proposed. And as we have mentioned, it violates the zoning. It violates the residential area. They have no information that they're able to present to us as to why this absolutely has to be there. And so we're just asking you and reporting back that we're disappointed that the developer is unwilling to work with us and we're continuing to try to reach out. But, um, at this point. But, um, at this point. we are really recommending that this project be you know eliminated from further agendas and and that because they're not they're not willing to work with us to make sure that this is a project that the that the community can be proud of so thank you for your time thank you both good evening thank you all for your service on this this board very much appreciate it great committee service I'm a resident of Bennington Green subdivision I live on waterwheel we have a can I have your name please Ross Gilders thank you Russ this problem we have with speeding and traffic on our street is difficult to articulate without seeming to drift into hyperbole but we have a serious problem and I think it would be best understood if you kind of understood the layout between our subdivision and the neighboring subdivision but we have a what I would characterize as a grave problem with traffic just whizzing down our street at that just crazy speeds and it's an abundance of traffic as well and this is not a new problem it was brought to the attention of I think some of the folks here as well as our police department about a year ago we were told there would be some patrols and some presents and

  7. we are really recommending that this project be you know eliminated from further agendas and and that because they're not they're not willing to work with us to make sure that this is a project that the that the community can be proud of so thank you for your time thank you both good evening thank you all for your service on this this board very much appreciate it great committee service I'm a resident of Bennington Green subdivision I live on waterwheel we have a can I have your name please Ross Gilders thank you Russ this problem we have with speeding and traffic on our street is difficult to articulate without seeming to drift into hyperbole but we have a serious problem and I think it would be best understood if you kind of understood the layout between our subdivision and the neighboring subdivision but we have a what I would characterize as a grave problem with traffic just whizzing down our street at that just crazy speeds and it's an abundance of traffic as well and this is not a new problem it was brought to the attention of I think some of the folks here as well as our police department about a year ago we were told there would be some patrols and some presents and maybe some tickets written I haven't seen a single officer on our street I haven't seen anything happen in that regard there was a traffic study done there's somebody here with some more detail on that maybe you guys saw the numbers but there were eyebrows raising nothing happened there and ultimately this problem culminated recently with a vehicle that went up onto a front yard hit a soccer net where a neighborhood girl who was maybe eight years old i mean she's out there every day very lucky she wasn't killed knocked over the lamp post on this front yard ran over the soccer goal that she's frequently kicking the ball into and left some pretty good tire tracks across this front yard we probably have 12 maybe even 15 kids under the age of 10 on our street i have one of them i'm about to have a second uh i can't express to you i know you guys have a lot on your plate um but this is a real serious problem and we could really use some help we have some ideas that we'd like to float to the road commission and discuss in more detail and i'm not expecting anything particular this particular this evening but i wanted to let you know that we had a meeting uh on this as a subdivision uh

  8. about a year ago we were told there would be some patrols and some presents and maybe some tickets written I haven't seen a single officer on our street I haven't seen anything happen in that regard there was a traffic study done there's somebody here with some more detail on that maybe you guys saw the numbers but there were eyebrows raising nothing happened there and ultimately this problem culminated recently with a vehicle that went up onto a front yard hit a soccer net where a neighborhood girl who was maybe eight years old i mean she's out there every day very lucky she wasn't killed knocked over the lamp post on this front yard ran over the soccer goal that she's frequently kicking the ball into and left some pretty good tire tracks across this front yard we probably have 12 maybe even 15 kids under the age of 10 on our street i have one of them i'm about to have a second uh i can't express to you i know you guys have a lot on your plate um but this is a real serious problem and we could really use some help we have some ideas that we'd like to float to the road commission and discuss in more detail and i'm not expecting anything particular this particular this evening but i wanted to let you know that we had a meeting uh on this as a subdivision uh yesterday evening in our park it's something that uh there was 15 17 people there who were there in large part to discuss this we're all very concerned about it and we just want to bring it i want to bring it to your attention this evening and we'll have some further discussion with the road commission and hopefully uh get some help from you folks and very much appreciate you being aware of this matter okay thank you ross thank you for bringing it back to our attention hey guys i'm i'm neighbors with ross uh my name is Goldstein. I'm on Waterwheel Lane 4130 Waterwheel Lane. First off sorry that you guys listened to all of our complaints and I'm sure that there's you know there's obviously a it's an immense community. I've been here for two years it's a fantastic place to live. I wouldn't live anywhere else in Michigan honestly. So starting off strong there. The issue is I had this traffic study done and again I'm neighbors with Ross so we're kind of partnering in this. We're between February 5th and February 10th of 2025 there were over 2,000 cars that drove past our our neighborhood and over I think it was like oh 49% were an enforceable violation. Our speed limit's 25 the 85th percentile was 30 30 plus miles

  9. this evening but i wanted to let you know that we had a meeting uh on this as a subdivision uh yesterday evening in our park it's something that uh there was 15 17 people there who were there in large part to discuss this we're all very concerned about it and we just want to bring it i want to bring it to your attention this evening and we'll have some further discussion with the road commission and hopefully uh get some help from you folks and very much appreciate you being aware of this matter okay thank you ross thank you for bringing it back to our attention hey guys i'm i'm neighbors with ross uh my name is Goldstein. I'm on Waterwheel Lane 4130 Waterwheel Lane. First off sorry that you guys listened to all of our complaints and I'm sure that there's you know there's obviously a it's an immense community. I've been here for two years it's a fantastic place to live. I wouldn't live anywhere else in Michigan honestly. So starting off strong there. The issue is I had this traffic study done and again I'm neighbors with Ross so we're kind of partnering in this. We're between February 5th and February 10th of 2025 there were over 2,000 cars that drove past our our neighborhood and over I think it was like oh 49% were an enforceable violation. Our speed limit's 25 the 85th percentile was 30 30 plus miles an hour. I have two kids I was six-year-old I have a three-year-old Ross has a kid another one on the way there's at least 15 other kids within at least the next six house is over from us and again we just had an incident where someone was we don't know the specifics but presumably speeding on Lone Pine tried to come into our neighborhood jumped the curb hit a light pole hit kids equipment that length thankfully my kid wasn't out there thankfully nobody else was out there went back on the road and then it was a hit and run where there's people that have seen the license plate but that's really not for this. I've discussed with Sergeant Sparks previously and I think it's Sergeant Ellis. now, Ellie's, if I'm understanding correctly, who I gave my phone number to today to discuss this further, but it's abhorrent that we're not taking this more seriously. Why would we react in a way that's, or why are we not reacting to this, I guess is the first thing. You know, kids can die. Nobody wants to be on the news for this. We definitely don't want Bloomfield Hills to be on the news for this. We need to have better regulations for our community, for speeding. We need to have better monitoring of our traffic enforcement as well. And we need some

  10. enforceable violation. Our speed limit's 25 the 85th percentile was 30 30 plus miles an hour. I have two kids I was six-year-old I have a three-year-old Ross has a kid another one on the way there's at least 15 other kids within at least the next six house is over from us and again we just had an incident where someone was we don't know the specifics but presumably speeding on Lone Pine tried to come into our neighborhood jumped the curb hit a light pole hit kids equipment that length thankfully my kid wasn't out there thankfully nobody else was out there went back on the road and then it was a hit and run where there's people that have seen the license plate but that's really not for this. I've discussed with Sergeant Sparks previously and I think it's Sergeant Ellis. now, Ellie's, if I'm understanding correctly, who I gave my phone number to today to discuss this further, but it's abhorrent that we're not taking this more seriously. Why would we react in a way that's, or why are we not reacting to this, I guess is the first thing. You know, kids can die. Nobody wants to be on the news for this. We definitely don't want Bloomfield Hills to be on the news for this. We need to have better regulations for our community, for speeding. We need to have better monitoring of our traffic enforcement as well. And we need some accountability. You know, this is a failure. Yeah. Don't have too much more to say beyond that, but it's, I'm very disappointed. So, but awesome job for the majority of other things we're at. That's going on. Okay. Thank you, Eric. Thanks. Thank you. Okay. If there's no further public comment, we'll close public comment. And move to item number two, the consider the consent agenda. Do we have a motion to approve or any other changes? I'd like to remove a couple items from that. I'd like to remove the treasurer's quarterly financial report and payroll and vouchers. So B and D mark? Yes, sir. Okay. So we'll move those back to items 12, 12, 12 A and 12 B. Supervisor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve to A, C and E. So. So. for it. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay it passes seven to nothing. Thank you Chris. Item number three, consider a request for a local governing body resolution charitable gaming license organization. The Holocaust Cultural Foundation presented by our clerk Martin Brooke. Martin? Good

  11. We need to have better monitoring of our traffic enforcement as well. And we need some accountability. You know, this is a failure. Yeah. Don't have too much more to say beyond that, but it's, I'm very disappointed. So, but awesome job for the majority of other things we're at. That's going on. Okay. Thank you, Eric. Thanks. Thank you. Okay. If there's no further public comment, we'll close public comment. And move to item number two, the consider the consent agenda. Do we have a motion to approve or any other changes? I'd like to remove a couple items from that. I'd like to remove the treasurer's quarterly financial report and payroll and vouchers. So B and D mark? Yes, sir. Okay. So we'll move those back to items 12, 12, 12 A and 12 B. Supervisor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve to A, C and E. So. So. for it. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay it passes seven to nothing. Thank you Chris. Item number three, consider a request for a local governing body resolution charitable gaming license organization. The Holocaust Cultural Foundation presented by our clerk Martin Brooke. Martin? Good evening. I believe we have someone representing the charity who's gonna do this. You want to come up and say anything about it, you're welcome to. But sure, great. It's good PR to spread the word of what you're doing but the application is in order. All the items required for the license is present and I recommend we approve it as presented. And again if you're interested in telling us a little bit about the event, you're welcome to come up. Sure. I've never said it and I get to walk to the mic here. Hello. My name is Carolyn Geck. I'm the Vice Chair of Holokin Cultural and very excited to be presenting to you. We are a new nonprofit organization developed really to pursue the legacy of cultural heritage for jazz and blues and other music. We do that primarily through a legacy event about Joe Sample who is a very well known musical artist and his son who is the founder of this organization recently moved here which is why the the nonprofit was developed. So

  12. Holocaust Cultural Foundation presented by our clerk Martin Brooke. Martin? Good evening. I believe we have someone representing the charity who's gonna do this. You want to come up and say anything about it, you're welcome to. But sure, great. It's good PR to spread the word of what you're doing but the application is in order. All the items required for the license is present and I recommend we approve it as presented. And again if you're interested in telling us a little bit about the event, you're welcome to come up. Sure. I've never said it and I get to walk to the mic here. Hello. My name is Carolyn Geck. I'm the Vice Chair of Holokin Cultural and very excited to be presenting to you. We are a new nonprofit organization developed really to pursue the legacy of cultural heritage for jazz and blues and other music. We do that primarily through a legacy event about Joe Sample who is a very well known musical artist and his son who is the founder of this organization recently moved here which is why the the nonprofit was developed. So We will host events. We did host an event in February that was in Houston. We will host another event, another legacy event, and roll in educational components for Holocaust Cultural. So this effort, of course, is to help us put some money in the coffers so we can put on good events and share the information and educational opportunities for more folks in the community. So thank you. When's the event? The upcoming event. Yeah, and where is it going to be held? We're not talking about the gaming event, right? We're just talking about the upcoming Holikin event. Where the gaming will be, or both. Oh, yeah. So the gaming, the dates are not finalized yet. I think this is obviously a first part in making sure that that was something that was approved. But that is MOMO's, a licensed charity gaming location that's in Taylor, and they've been around since 2011. Certainly looking for other opportunities if other folks have ideas. I'm all ears. This next event that we're going to do is going to be in the fall. Looking for my date on this piece of paper. Oh, September. It's not in the application, the date of the game event, Mark? I'm going to let the same effect grab it.

  13. We will host events. We did host an event in February that was in Houston. We will host another event, another legacy event, and roll in educational components for Holocaust Cultural. So this effort, of course, is to help us put some money in the coffers so we can put on good events and share the information and educational opportunities for more folks in the community. So thank you. When's the event? The upcoming event. Yeah, and where is it going to be held? We're not talking about the gaming event, right? We're just talking about the upcoming Holikin event. Where the gaming will be, or both. Oh, yeah. So the gaming, the dates are not finalized yet. I think this is obviously a first part in making sure that that was something that was approved. But that is MOMO's, a licensed charity gaming location that's in Taylor, and they've been around since 2011. Certainly looking for other opportunities if other folks have ideas. I'm all ears. This next event that we're going to do is going to be in the fall. Looking for my date on this piece of paper. Oh, September. It's not in the application, the date of the game event, Mark? I'm going to let the same effect grab it. Usually there's the date when we approve these things. There's usually the date when we're doing it? Yes. I don't think that because we were approved to do it that we discussed the dates. I don't have that information here. Right. So what I'm going to actually wear is the information. So we have everything here except for the date, in fact. Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Yes, how would we do that? I don't have it here and there. Excuse me. How do we do? We can entertain a motion to approve it subject to providing the date. Within a certain period of time. Right, by Thursday of this week. Great. Yeah. And the event would be held in the next few months? Yes. Okay. And this would be at that moment in Taylor? Yes. Okay, yeah, because I read it all in the packet. I was not familiar with this group, but it sounds like a very interesting. Yeah, and doing the research I found many other places that do this type of gaming that I was not familiar with.

  14. I'm going to let the same effect grab it. Usually there's the date when we approve these things. There's usually the date when we're doing it? Yes. I don't think that because we were approved to do it that we discussed the dates. I don't have that information here. Right. So what I'm going to actually wear is the information. So we have everything here except for the date, in fact. Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Yes, how would we do that? I don't have it here and there. Excuse me. How do we do? We can entertain a motion to approve it subject to providing the date. Within a certain period of time. Right, by Thursday of this week. Great. Yeah. And the event would be held in the next few months? Yes. Okay. And this would be at that moment in Taylor? Yes. Okay, yeah, because I read it all in the packet. I was not familiar with this group, but it sounds like a very interesting. Yeah, and doing the research I found many other places that do this type of gaming that I was not familiar with. So interesting. Right, right. New avenue. So even though the event happens in Taylor, the license has to be granted where the 501c3 resides, so that's why we're here today. Yes, thank you. Great. Thank you. Okay, thank you. So I owe you information about dates by Thursday. Thursday. Make a motion that we approve the application subject to receiving a date on this by Thursday of this week. Okay, so I'm gonna take a- Certainly walk. It's a problem. Okay, motion by Neal and support by Val. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, it passes seven to nothing. Thank you. Item number four, discuss solutions to the Police Department's present and future space and functional needs presented by our Chief Jimmy Gallagher. Hey Jimmy, welcome. Welcome back. Real quick just to know the gentleman just outside I talked to them. We will look into the that area over there. Yeah, in the wagon wheel. The good news for us literally this was our number one topic on one of our lieutenants meeting last Wednesday morning. We were able to, our shift assignments start the same time as our budget year, so April 1st all the new shifts started and being that we are only four officers down instead of 14 as we were last year at this time, we reassigned

  15. Yeah, and doing the research I found many other places that do this type of gaming that I was not familiar with. So interesting. Right, right. New avenue. So even though the event happens in Taylor, the license has to be granted where the 501c3 resides, so that's why we're here today. Yes, thank you. Great. Thank you. Okay, thank you. So I owe you information about dates by Thursday. Thursday. Make a motion that we approve the application subject to receiving a date on this by Thursday of this week. Okay, so I'm gonna take a- Certainly walk. It's a problem. Okay, motion by Neal and support by Val. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, it passes seven to nothing. Thank you. Item number four, discuss solutions to the Police Department's present and future space and functional needs presented by our Chief Jimmy Gallagher. Hey Jimmy, welcome. Welcome back. Real quick just to know the gentleman just outside I talked to them. We will look into the that area over there. Yeah, in the wagon wheel. The good news for us literally this was our number one topic on one of our lieutenants meeting last Wednesday morning. We were able to, our shift assignments start the same time as our budget year, so April 1st all the new shifts started and being that we are only four officers down instead of 14 as we were last year at this time, we reassigned and we're able to put Sergeant Eller is now in charge of the traffic and then there's two officers now assigned with hopes by the end of the year with the new hires we have coming on that are, we'll have our full traffic unit back up and running and that's our, one of our number one targets is our subdivisions. It's our number one complaint throughout the entire township as well as the weekends now that it's getting warm, the noise along the Woodward Square Lake and up the, those thoroughfares. So we're aware of it. It's unfortunate there's a lot more of them than there is a lot more than us. So, but we will get into the subdivisions that is a priority and the traffic team knows that. So tomorrow morning I'll have a conversation on that. But coming back to what we've been here the last couple weeks on the police building and facilities i had the opportunity on late last week to give trustee murray a tour through the building and we were able to kind of re-engage redstone along the last couple weeks to have a conversation the last meeting and full transparency to the board that's why we're back tonight as we engage them about the court building as that's an aging infrastructure as well unfortunately one of the things that we determined during that discussion was that court needs more space than we anticipated initially you know there's a lot of uncertainty with the

  16. four officers down instead of 14 as we were last year at this time, we reassigned and we're able to put Sergeant Eller is now in charge of the traffic and then there's two officers now assigned with hopes by the end of the year with the new hires we have coming on that are, we'll have our full traffic unit back up and running and that's our, one of our number one targets is our subdivisions. It's our number one complaint throughout the entire township as well as the weekends now that it's getting warm, the noise along the Woodward Square Lake and up the, those thoroughfares. So we're aware of it. It's unfortunate there's a lot more of them than there is a lot more than us. So, but we will get into the subdivisions that is a priority and the traffic team knows that. So tomorrow morning I'll have a conversation on that. But coming back to what we've been here the last couple weeks on the police building and facilities i had the opportunity on late last week to give trustee murray a tour through the building and we were able to kind of re-engage redstone along the last couple weeks to have a conversation the last meeting and full transparency to the board that's why we're back tonight as we engage them about the court building as that's an aging infrastructure as well unfortunately one of the things that we determined during that discussion was that court needs more space than we anticipated initially you know there's a lot of uncertainty with the court right now and how many judges will be there in the future and there's just some infrastructure things there that i don't think is really something that can be committed to at this time in addition we the initial discussion was possibly i don't think trustee antacly asked last week or last meeting is how much shared space or how much common space could be shared amongst the buildings and doing some of that research there's really not a lot that can be shared um one we discussed greatly is the optics the judicial system should be different than the enforcement side of things that the judge you know the court system is an impartial um individuals and people looking at our cases having jury rooms and and judges and stuff connected to a police department without how with the limited space we have here i would hate to see a case go in front of an appellate court uh because of where we think there's some improprieties that's that's not the way the you are justice systems developed, and I think we have some grave concerns there. Again, plus the amount of space they need and the amount of space that we have available becomes a concern for us. I also want to bring it back to the board that in discussing that, you know, as we move forward,

  17. needs more space than we anticipated initially you know there's a lot of uncertainty with the court right now and how many judges will be there in the future and there's just some infrastructure things there that i don't think is really something that can be committed to at this time in addition we the initial discussion was possibly i don't think trustee antacly asked last week or last meeting is how much shared space or how much common space could be shared amongst the buildings and doing some of that research there's really not a lot that can be shared um one we discussed greatly is the optics the judicial system should be different than the enforcement side of things that the judge you know the court system is an impartial um individuals and people looking at our cases having jury rooms and and judges and stuff connected to a police department without how with the limited space we have here i would hate to see a case go in front of an appellate court uh because of where we think there's some improprieties that's that's not the way the you are justice systems developed, and I think we have some grave concerns there. Again, plus the amount of space they need and the amount of space that we have available becomes a concern for us. I also want to bring it back to the board that in discussing that, you know, as we move forward, and again, my recommendation to you is to move forward and hopefully figure a way to get us a new building, is that we could vacate this building as the police department, open up 16 to 16 and a half thousand square feet, but it's still built as a police station. We still have some of that room as built in as holding cells and jail cells and the IT infrastructure and the things that are still the problem in this building are still going to be the problem in this building moving forward, and the HVAC systems, the mechanicals. With that, if we had to, you know, to give more space to these other departments that need it as well, again, I talk mostly planning, building, and ordinance when you look at how they're sandwiched in the back there, once we get to renovating portions of this building, we have to possibly bring it up to code as much as we're going to, and there, I just don't know, and again, it's a proposal for the board, but in full transparency to us in the community, I think that's got to be discussed, is that this building cannot and will not, based on the recommendations, handle any more remodels or additions to it. We start tearing down walls in some of these, we may end up running into some significant structural problems here, so. We don't have the space, Jim, for you. You walked, I know, I saw you walking with Val and Bob, and I think Mark walked through it with you as well, so do you have any comments of what you...

  18. I also want to bring it back to the board that in discussing that, you know, as we move forward, and again, my recommendation to you is to move forward and hopefully figure a way to get us a new building, is that we could vacate this building as the police department, open up 16 to 16 and a half thousand square feet, but it's still built as a police station. We still have some of that room as built in as holding cells and jail cells and the IT infrastructure and the things that are still the problem in this building are still going to be the problem in this building moving forward, and the HVAC systems, the mechanicals. With that, if we had to, you know, to give more space to these other departments that need it as well, again, I talk mostly planning, building, and ordinance when you look at how they're sandwiched in the back there, once we get to renovating portions of this building, we have to possibly bring it up to code as much as we're going to, and there, I just don't know, and again, it's a proposal for the board, but in full transparency to us in the community, I think that's got to be discussed, is that this building cannot and will not, based on the recommendations, handle any more remodels or additions to it. We start tearing down walls in some of these, we may end up running into some significant structural problems here, so. We don't have the space, Jim, for you. You walked, I know, I saw you walking with Val and Bob, and I think Mark walked through it with you as well, so do you have any comments of what you... you uh had seen um i thought it was a really great tour very thorough we went through it seems like we're a little disjointed too because different things are in different places and would be better you know you don't need to be right on top of this administrative building you need to have your department together um you know we had an approach for more dispatch to support another community we don't have room to expand that um that would have been a good thing but as it is the dispatchers are squeezed in just to take care of what they already have um i i told chief that years ago i um was on the i.t staff for port and school which was 100 years old and when we renovated that building it was very challenging um we moved the kids out for a year there's you know the walls are cinder blocks and how do you get the um the infrastructure that we need and the new technology that we need um i have really understood a lot of what he was saying you know where the space is tight and at some point renovation you know isn't enough or it's tough because you have to live through it and you still have to work we still need you guys every day so um i really appreciated the tour thank you thank you okay mark anything you want to add uh the need for the space is uh definite uh my

  19. you uh had seen um i thought it was a really great tour very thorough we went through it seems like we're a little disjointed too because different things are in different places and would be better you know you don't need to be right on top of this administrative building you need to have your department together um you know we had an approach for more dispatch to support another community we don't have room to expand that um that would have been a good thing but as it is the dispatchers are squeezed in just to take care of what they already have um i i told chief that years ago i um was on the i.t staff for port and school which was 100 years old and when we renovated that building it was very challenging um we moved the kids out for a year there's you know the walls are cinder blocks and how do you get the um the infrastructure that we need and the new technology that we need um i have really understood a lot of what he was saying you know where the space is tight and at some point renovation you know isn't enough or it's tough because you have to live through it and you still have to work we still need you guys every day so um i really appreciated the tour thank you thank you okay mark anything you want to add uh the need for the space is uh definite uh my main concern was uh the financial piece uh we did we have spoken about um the pension and the amount of cash to support that as more people retire and uh having those occur at the same time prior to uh the pension bond debt going away uh gives me some concern as well okay all right thank you any other questions yeah i would just add to that as you know as we were looking through with redstone um and having those conversations we do have our and our you the annex area available um one of the things again that was not in the initial redstone thing but that we learned in speaking with our dpw who's unfortunately directly above our range our range is pretty much useless at this point during the day shift we've made some hopefully some modifications recently that we can at least do some training with all our new officers but um you know that's one of those concerns there as well um and and the hopes is that part of this um was you know the size of the building um and the space that we actually have available is there an opportunity to build a training range up at the annex um with a storage facility for us as well because that that we just

  20. thank you thank you okay mark anything you want to add uh the need for the space is uh definite uh my main concern was uh the financial piece uh we did we have spoken about um the pension and the amount of cash to support that as more people retire and uh having those occur at the same time prior to uh the pension bond debt going away uh gives me some concern as well okay all right thank you any other questions yeah i would just add to that as you know as we were looking through with redstone um and having those conversations we do have our and our you the annex area available um one of the things again that was not in the initial redstone thing but that we learned in speaking with our dpw who's unfortunately directly above our range our range is pretty much useless at this point during the day shift we've made some hopefully some modifications recently that we can at least do some training with all our new officers but um you know that's one of those concerns there as well um and and the hopes is that part of this um was you know the size of the building um and the space that we actually have available is there an opportunity to build a training range up at the annex um with a storage facility for us as well because that that we just don't have the room for that here where our incident command vehicle could be stored some of our you know other uh equipment in addition you know again that wouldn't be an elaborate um issue but you know the fire department as well would benefit from that and basically jimmy you're talking about 60 000 square feet is what you're what the need assessment is for the police department correct and that that's when you say 60 000 square feet that is the size of the building the workable space probably about 40 000 square feet but you know you there's so many you know hallways and things and stairwells and elevator shafts and things that take up over 20 000 square feet of a new building which was a shock to us when we actually saw it but um the operational space and you know we talked about size of a building um i'm not so much worried about the size of a new building i'm worried about the limitations that we have in the current space that we have now um again when we're trying to modernize and trying to be a police department that's going to be you know beneficial from now into the future um how do we do that for another 100 years okay jimmy can you um elaborate i think a little bit i don't i feel like you kind of glossed over a little bit what this training means and when you say annex you're talking about the land that we have on gulf drive so it's land that we already own

  21. training range up at the annex um with a storage facility for us as well because that that we just don't have the room for that here where our incident command vehicle could be stored some of our you know other uh equipment in addition you know again that wouldn't be an elaborate um issue but you know the fire department as well would benefit from that and basically jimmy you're talking about 60 000 square feet is what you're what the need assessment is for the police department correct and that that's when you say 60 000 square feet that is the size of the building the workable space probably about 40 000 square feet but you know you there's so many you know hallways and things and stairwells and elevator shafts and things that take up over 20 000 square feet of a new building which was a shock to us when we actually saw it but um the operational space and you know we talked about size of a building um i'm not so much worried about the size of a new building i'm worried about the limitations that we have in the current space that we have now um again when we're trying to modernize and trying to be a police department that's going to be you know beneficial from now into the future um how do we do that for another 100 years okay jimmy can you um elaborate i think a little bit i don't i feel like you kind of glossed over a little bit what this training means and when you say annex you're talking about the land that we have on gulf drive so it's land that we already own and the fire department uses for training dpw uses for storage and when we discussed this you know over the last couple weeks the idea of building a specialized dedicated training facility up in that area away from everything that would include a new and you know state-of-the-art range training rooms um defensive tactic rooms like everything you would need simulators to to train and to work with fire to do their training um and that would remove what we would need from the building here in terms of space and that it's better it's better you know that you talked about having it it would be better to do it off-site yeah that was one of the recommendations at the very beginning by redstone um and you know just to give again redstone is a long history of developing and both sides of it space needs assessments uh for for law enforcement facilities and public safety facilities and then they also do the architectural side of it um as a full service and that was actually one of the recommendations they brought we are limited in space on the campus that we have um so you know 60 000 square feet is um ideal but when you that doesn't include a range that doesn't include secure parking um which we don't have now um and so the redstone was actually the one who brought that to

  22. you say annex you're talking about the land that we have on gulf drive so it's land that we already own and the fire department uses for training dpw uses for storage and when we discussed this you know over the last couple weeks the idea of building a specialized dedicated training facility up in that area away from everything that would include a new and you know state-of-the-art range training rooms um defensive tactic rooms like everything you would need simulators to to train and to work with fire to do their training um and that would remove what we would need from the building here in terms of space and that it's better it's better you know that you talked about having it it would be better to do it off-site yeah that was one of the recommendations at the very beginning by redstone um and you know just to give again redstone is a long history of developing and both sides of it space needs assessments uh for for law enforcement facilities and public safety facilities and then they also do the architectural side of it um as a full service and that was actually one of the recommendations they brought we are limited in space on the campus that we have um so you know 60 000 square feet is um ideal but when you that doesn't include a range that doesn't include secure parking um which we don't have now um and so the redstone was actually the one who brought that to us saying you know you can cut space in a building and then do do an off-site training facility which includes your range where you can you know it just gives you other options of a first floor range and abilities that even drive a car and you know if it's only a six or eight lane that's fine you just need the ability to to train the way that we would train on the road um in those situations and so having something where both one we can both police and fire can can take advantage of it but there's other outside opportunities there as well you know we can host outside training there's there's so many things right now we're separated everywhere um you want to do one training you have to go to one place go to another um and again when i talk about the youth of our agency um just on this last friday we tried something different uh because it was closed we had basically open gym hours so because our we have such a young agency our trainers were down there um and we we were paying you know comp time for our officers to come in off duty um to so that's what we're doing um so that's what we're doing um so that's what we're they could go through extra training and just reactionary drills. And to be quite honest, the reactionary drills are simple. It's an officer turns around, they turn around, and the trainers give them a scenario. I think right now, ironically, two scenarios out of there

  23. parking um which we don't have now um and so the redstone was actually the one who brought that to us saying you know you can cut space in a building and then do do an off-site training facility which includes your range where you can you know it just gives you other options of a first floor range and abilities that even drive a car and you know if it's only a six or eight lane that's fine you just need the ability to to train the way that we would train on the road um in those situations and so having something where both one we can both police and fire can can take advantage of it but there's other outside opportunities there as well you know we can host outside training there's there's so many things right now we're separated everywhere um you want to do one training you have to go to one place go to another um and again when i talk about the youth of our agency um just on this last friday we tried something different uh because it was closed we had basically open gym hours so because our we have such a young agency our trainers were down there um and we we were paying you know comp time for our officers to come in off duty um to so that's what we're doing um so that's what we're doing um so that's what we're they could go through extra training and just reactionary drills. And to be quite honest, the reactionary drills are simple. It's an officer turns around, they turn around, and the trainers give them a scenario. I think right now, ironically, two scenarios out of there occurred within 24 hours of that happening. One was a choking baby that was saved yesterday, and then another one today was applying a tourniquet on an accidental gunshot wound. And so those were two scenarios that they just happened to create, but again, we had to bring people in off-duty because we can't do some of that in the facilities we are in right now. So to have that ability is just, it's what modern police departments do. And Redstone was able to provide us, the city of Flint's doing one now, and a couple of out-of-state agencies that did it. The city of Troy has their own training facility off of John R. Road. So just, it really made sense when it got down to it because of the space we have, building a range is going to have to be underground. And you're talking probably the same amount of, you know, the cost could be cheaper to do an off-site center than building it actually in ground. Chief, do you know, having just been down in the inside range and whoever thought that went up, you know, shooting when you've got the department right above there working during the day and they can still hear it, that the gunshots are pretty loud. But was there any talk about if we could move that to the

  24. I think right now, ironically, two scenarios out of there occurred within 24 hours of that happening. One was a choking baby that was saved yesterday, and then another one today was applying a tourniquet on an accidental gunshot wound. And so those were two scenarios that they just happened to create, but again, we had to bring people in off-duty because we can't do some of that in the facilities we are in right now. So to have that ability is just, it's what modern police departments do. And Redstone was able to provide us, the city of Flint's doing one now, and a couple of out-of-state agencies that did it. The city of Troy has their own training facility off of John R. Road. So just, it really made sense when it got down to it because of the space we have, building a range is going to have to be underground. And you're talking probably the same amount of, you know, the cost could be cheaper to do an off-site center than building it actually in ground. Chief, do you know, having just been down in the inside range and whoever thought that went up, you know, shooting when you've got the department right above there working during the day and they can still hear it, that the gunshots are pretty loud. But was there any talk about if we could move that to the the annex what would be the reuse of that space over it in the basement you know that would be I well I can tell you that DPW is you know using training facilities all day long clerk Brooke is always looking for you know areas to help you during that I mean depending on those could be put into rooms or again for for many different things down there we're always hosting and again it would free up the EOC as well because technically that EOC should be close to our dispatch center and close to Town Hall in the event that you know that was activated but you we still have our normal jobs to do or you still have your normal jobs to do and going back and forth so I mean there's just we're a community that deserves a modern facility now and we've and again I give great credit to the to the individuals who take care of our buildings the buildings been well maintained but we've outgrown it and I think they'll you notice the other day I have people with no desks well and my interesting that you said you know you bring your husband along and I was like I said do you want to go and he he goes yeah sure and you know he used to be on cert so he has been down there he has seen a number of things he's had a little bit of police training a little bit of EMS training over his life and he found it fascinating and he understands much

  25. the annex what would be the reuse of that space over it in the basement you know that would be I well I can tell you that DPW is you know using training facilities all day long clerk Brooke is always looking for you know areas to help you during that I mean depending on those could be put into rooms or again for for many different things down there we're always hosting and again it would free up the EOC as well because technically that EOC should be close to our dispatch center and close to Town Hall in the event that you know that was activated but you we still have our normal jobs to do or you still have your normal jobs to do and going back and forth so I mean there's just we're a community that deserves a modern facility now and we've and again I give great credit to the to the individuals who take care of our buildings the buildings been well maintained but we've outgrown it and I think they'll you notice the other day I have people with no desks well and my interesting that you said you know you bring your husband along and I was like I said do you want to go and he he goes yeah sure and you know he used to be on cert so he has been down there he has seen a number of things he's had a little bit of police training a little bit of EMS training over his life and he found it fascinating and he understands much better which is you know another community member that can speak to this if people start asking us questions so thank you for sharing the tour yeah and as we move forward that's something we can open up to our residents depending on what you want this is not a wish this is a need and I think if you again you talk to the experts and I think you know mr. redstone said it to Michael the other day this was not a you know we were not you know way outside our bounds of what we mean we were conservative on what we needed in modern-day policing so Chris you had a question just a comment so we talked about other communities have done the same thing and I work in another community where the police department had gone through a similar exercise they had an aging police department they brought in the outside consultants to say what can you do with this building to modernize and they said it's cheaper for you to build off-site so again even though we want to look at this turn every stone you know look for other areas and avenues to save money it was cheaper for us to build off-site because the amount of cost to modernize and bring up to to current standards was greater than the cost of new building so again that was being fiscally responsible and that's what our community did and there were the examples we use as a new police department and how they modernize it was the cheaper option which is I think sadly what we're

  26. of EMS training over his life and he found it fascinating and he understands much better which is you know another community member that can speak to this if people start asking us questions so thank you for sharing the tour yeah and as we move forward that's something we can open up to our residents depending on what you want this is not a wish this is a need and I think if you again you talk to the experts and I think you know mr. redstone said it to Michael the other day this was not a you know we were not you know way outside our bounds of what we mean we were conservative on what we needed in modern-day policing so Chris you had a question just a comment so we talked about other communities have done the same thing and I work in another community where the police department had gone through a similar exercise they had an aging police department they brought in the outside consultants to say what can you do with this building to modernize and they said it's cheaper for you to build off-site so again even though we want to look at this turn every stone you know look for other areas and avenues to save money it was cheaper for us to build off-site because the amount of cost to modernize and bring up to to current standards was greater than the cost of new building so again that was being fiscally responsible and that's what our community did and there were the examples we use as a new police department and how they modernize it was the cheaper option which is I think sadly what we're looking at here it's just how do we fund it and how can we get you there so other communities have done the same homework we have and they come to the same conclusion it's just how do we get there well in part of modernization you know you still have to function as a police department 24 hours a day and the construction if it was something simple or something where it was just an expansion outside it's going to interfere with what you do every day and we know how important our public safety is so and I agree with Chris that very often new construction is cheaper than another remodel this building has been remodeled like three times so. Martin did you have a comment? Yeah sure chief you know during the day as you know the supervisor treasurer be the clerk the leadership of the police department are interacting all day long every day and there's a lot of exchange going on and synergies that come from that one of our recent hall conversations I think we talked a little bit about this too which is if we're building a new police department a building for police the disadvantage of separating the leadership elected leadership from the police leadership

  27. how they modernize it was the cheaper option which is I think sadly what we're looking at here it's just how do we fund it and how can we get you there so other communities have done the same homework we have and they come to the same conclusion it's just how do we get there well in part of modernization you know you still have to function as a police department 24 hours a day and the construction if it was something simple or something where it was just an expansion outside it's going to interfere with what you do every day and we know how important our public safety is so and I agree with Chris that very often new construction is cheaper than another remodel this building has been remodeled like three times so. Martin did you have a comment? Yeah sure chief you know during the day as you know the supervisor treasurer be the clerk the leadership of the police department are interacting all day long every day and there's a lot of exchange going on and synergies that come from that one of our recent hall conversations I think we talked a little bit about this too which is if we're building a new police department a building for police the disadvantage of separating the leadership elected leadership from the police leadership and the need potential to look at a solution that you know that avoids that issue. Yeah and that again I go back yes I think for from a leadership perspective it's very advantageous to go down the hall and see Tony when he's here doing office hours which because we talk so much and you know we're constantly updating of the board on anything that goes on you know that could be an impact of the community especially if it's a media you know things but there's public safety concerns you know that get addressed all the time you know supervisor McCready as we already have it we have residents you know emailing about traffic well that happens all day long and and to be able to go right down the hall or pick up a phone and be like hey this is what's going on and having the conversations It's an elected official coming into the building and says, hey, I want to go down and talk to the police. In my neighborhood the other day, there was four police cars. What was going on? That happens more than people realize. And unless you're in the roles, you may not realize the advantages to it. But I think there's also some separation there, right, of the way that our buildings are laid out now. There is no privacy if somebody comes in and wants to file a police report versus coming up to pay their taxes. Maybe they don't want somebody to know that they're in the police department. And so I think there's ways to do that with the new building.

  28. separating the leadership elected leadership from the police leadership and the need potential to look at a solution that you know that avoids that issue. Yeah and that again I go back yes I think for from a leadership perspective it's very advantageous to go down the hall and see Tony when he's here doing office hours which because we talk so much and you know we're constantly updating of the board on anything that goes on you know that could be an impact of the community especially if it's a media you know things but there's public safety concerns you know that get addressed all the time you know supervisor McCready as we already have it we have residents you know emailing about traffic well that happens all day long and and to be able to go right down the hall or pick up a phone and be like hey this is what's going on and having the conversations It's an elected official coming into the building and says, hey, I want to go down and talk to the police. In my neighborhood the other day, there was four police cars. What was going on? That happens more than people realize. And unless you're in the roles, you may not realize the advantages to it. But I think there's also some separation there, right, of the way that our buildings are laid out now. There is no privacy if somebody comes in and wants to file a police report versus coming up to pay their taxes. Maybe they don't want somebody to know that they're in the police department. And so I think there's ways to do that with the new building. But I go back to this building. We can vacate it all day long. The problem is still going to be for town hall. And how do you remodel it, getting it there, without spending more money than if you just include maybe a town hall added on to where we're at? That's going to be, again, those are questions for this board and for our community. But I work here every day. I've seen, you know, that 07, 08, when they did these back buildings, the police department was talked about. I don't know what. I wasn't here, an administrator at that time. I was pushing a patrol car. So I don't know why that didn't happen. I'm guessing cost then. Well, I guess if we looked at it now, we'd have rather paid that construction cost 18 years ago, 20 years ago, rather than what we are now. And that's a question for our community, again, is do we want to address it sooner than later or do we want to address it again 10 years down the road where we could be paying an additional $20 million again? So, again, those are balancing acts we have to do. But from a leadership perspective on the police department, it's my job to bring forward what we're dealing with. with downstairs and quite frankly it's unacceptable. So you mentioned the EOC. Why don't you talk a little bit about what that is and right now where it is and the fact that it's separated from administration as well as police

  29. And so I think there's ways to do that with the new building. But I go back to this building. We can vacate it all day long. The problem is still going to be for town hall. And how do you remodel it, getting it there, without spending more money than if you just include maybe a town hall added on to where we're at? That's going to be, again, those are questions for this board and for our community. But I work here every day. I've seen, you know, that 07, 08, when they did these back buildings, the police department was talked about. I don't know what. I wasn't here, an administrator at that time. I was pushing a patrol car. So I don't know why that didn't happen. I'm guessing cost then. Well, I guess if we looked at it now, we'd have rather paid that construction cost 18 years ago, 20 years ago, rather than what we are now. And that's a question for our community, again, is do we want to address it sooner than later or do we want to address it again 10 years down the road where we could be paying an additional $20 million again? So, again, those are balancing acts we have to do. But from a leadership perspective on the police department, it's my job to bring forward what we're dealing with. with downstairs and quite frankly it's unacceptable. So you mentioned the EOC. Why don't you talk a little bit about what that is and right now where it is and the fact that it's separated from administration as well as police administration. Yeah and dispatch and why it shouldn't be. Yeah and I'll include our fire department on that because they're the ones who maintain the certifications over it. One is the Emergency Operations Center is critical to us. We are one of the very few communities that has an EOC that is directly that we can activate and we fully function as our own. Most communities have to go through Oakland County to have their own EOC and then if there's funds or anything available on behalf of a disaster it has to be funneled through the county. We are an agency that can just directly request them from the state so we would go direct with the state on that. Our EOC is has been you know upgraded most recently but again we go one we go back to space. That was a space that we used when we shouldn't have been using it for conferences or for trainings which we've been kind of shut down on that because an EOC has to be dedicated strictly for EOC use. But there's a lot our dispatch center is obviously in this building and if we have an emergency going on we can't pull a dispatcher from our dispatch center and assign them with us.

  30. and the fact that it's separated from administration as well as police administration. Yeah and dispatch and why it shouldn't be. Yeah and I'll include our fire department on that because they're the ones who maintain the certifications over it. One is the Emergency Operations Center is critical to us. We are one of the very few communities that has an EOC that is directly that we can activate and we fully function as our own. Most communities have to go through Oakland County to have their own EOC and then if there's funds or anything available on behalf of a disaster it has to be funneled through the county. We are an agency that can just directly request them from the state so we would go direct with the state on that. Our EOC is has been you know upgraded most recently but again we go one we go back to space. That was a space that we used when we shouldn't have been using it for conferences or for trainings which we've been kind of shut down on that because an EOC has to be dedicated strictly for EOC use. But there's a lot our dispatch center is obviously in this building and if we have an emergency going on we can't pull a dispatcher from our dispatch center and assign them with us. But typically, all the operations is happening in that dispatch center. So at times, we have to have bosses assigned into there, supervisors in there. And we're playing phone tag. We're playing that. Not only that, we just upgraded some of the communications down there. But cell phones really work. It's in a basement of a DPW cinder block building. Our IT's done great. But that synergy that you have during a critical incident, of many things, there's no one. And again, we do it every day, so we understand that, how important it is to have us all there. But when the EOC is activated, every single department head within our organization, and every single elected official has a, or our full-time elected officials, have a seat at that table during a crisis. But we still have the rest of the township to operate with. So the fire department, again, can be there in that room. And the modern ones are designed to be able to wall off dispatch, but have a council in there, and a dispatcher assigns. OK. Thank you, Jimmy. All right, any other questions? Yes, I've got one. Did Redstone consider tearing down the animal shelter and using that property? So part of the, yes, for, and I think,

  31. But typically, all the operations is happening in that dispatch center. So at times, we have to have bosses assigned into there, supervisors in there. And we're playing phone tag. We're playing that. Not only that, we just upgraded some of the communications down there. But cell phones really work. It's in a basement of a DPW cinder block building. Our IT's done great. But that synergy that you have during a critical incident, of many things, there's no one. And again, we do it every day, so we understand that, how important it is to have us all there. But when the EOC is activated, every single department head within our organization, and every single elected official has a, or our full-time elected officials, have a seat at that table during a crisis. But we still have the rest of the township to operate with. So the fire department, again, can be there in that room. And the modern ones are designed to be able to wall off dispatch, but have a council in there, and a dispatcher assigns. OK. Thank you, Jimmy. All right, any other questions? Yes, I've got one. Did Redstone consider tearing down the animal shelter and using that property? So part of the, yes, for, and I think, I don't know if this will show it here, Mark, or not, when we start talking about this most recent, kind of revamped what we did on it because of the court and looking at the courthouse. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. The center of that screen shows Town Hall, or I'm sorry, a new police department. To the right of that would be where Town Hall is today. The animal shelter, the goal would be to relocate the animal shelter where our cable studio is. And if Town Hall or the administration was included in part of the new building, the cable and communications division would then be put into, incorporated back into Town Hall, which, again, is a lot more convenient because we do so many new TV shows or podcasts. One of the issues we have with our animal shelter, again, is this extremely old building, and one of the main concerns we have is we have no dog runs, and so, again, they're just going outside. So that building has to be the hope, with the campus designed like this, that animal shelter would be relocated over to the cable studio. It's a big enough building, we'd have to do some modifications, but not, you know, we would have to do a rebuild over there.

  32. So part of the, yes, for, and I think, I don't know if this will show it here, Mark, or not, when we start talking about this most recent, kind of revamped what we did on it because of the court and looking at the courthouse. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. The center of that screen shows Town Hall, or I'm sorry, a new police department. To the right of that would be where Town Hall is today. The animal shelter, the goal would be to relocate the animal shelter where our cable studio is. And if Town Hall or the administration was included in part of the new building, the cable and communications division would then be put into, incorporated back into Town Hall, which, again, is a lot more convenient because we do so many new TV shows or podcasts. One of the issues we have with our animal shelter, again, is this extremely old building, and one of the main concerns we have is we have no dog runs, and so, again, they're just going outside. So that building has to be the hope, with the campus designed like this, that animal shelter would be relocated over to the cable studio. It's a big enough building, we'd have to do some modifications, but not, you know, we would have to do a rebuild over there. But that landmark would have to be utilized for parking and building and things of that nature. One of the things that struck me and my husband when you toured us was the EOC is over in Public Works. It's like way over there. It's so separated. Has anything Redstone considered that the Salt Dome is in the middle of campus? Yes, and if we relocate. the salt dome there's a big piece of property which would put us the police station between administration and fire would keep us all in line as opposed to we're kind of all over so so topography plays a big big issue of wrong this whole campus right from where we have set to where the courthouse sits is a there's a huge level a great issue there and so those are conversations that have been you know discussed for a long time one we had bonds for those buildings so I think there's some issues that legally would have to be talked about you know outside of my understanding and then there's a lot to be considered I've had a lot of people say well what if we relocated DPW those buildings are you know only there I mean they're gonna they're gonna be 20 years old but you

  33. It's a big enough building, we'd have to do some modifications, but not, you know, we would have to do a rebuild over there. But that landmark would have to be utilized for parking and building and things of that nature. One of the things that struck me and my husband when you toured us was the EOC is over in Public Works. It's like way over there. It's so separated. Has anything Redstone considered that the Salt Dome is in the middle of campus? Yes, and if we relocate. the salt dome there's a big piece of property which would put us the police station between administration and fire would keep us all in line as opposed to we're kind of all over so so topography plays a big big issue of wrong this whole campus right from where we have set to where the courthouse sits is a there's a huge level a great issue there and so those are conversations that have been you know discussed for a long time one we had bonds for those buildings so I think there's some issues that legally would have to be talked about you know outside of my understanding and then there's a lot to be considered I've had a lot of people say well what if we relocated DPW those buildings are you know only there I mean they're gonna they're gonna be 20 years old but you have a fuel station there that's millions of dollars to put in you have you got all the mechanical stuff in there and again you're only doing them to DPW what I think what they liked about the building going over here is because of the elevation they need underground parking to bring in people and to have secured parking so it plays well into the design and we wanted to have an appearance we want to still have that appearance on Telegraph Road so people know where we're at we don't want to be hidden back behind where people have to try to find who we are we deal with that with court all day long but we want to still be present with our community knowing that we're here there is some there is some belief that that is a crime prevention tool. Val, the EOC would be moved into the police building next to dispatch. So it would be connected, which is how it should be. Well that makes sense, but when I toured, you know, the EOC is. Right. Well right now it is. Right. And so that made no sense. This would solve that. Oh sure. Yeah. I mean I could see a lot of, it seemed like everything was a little disjointed. Okay. Thank you Jimmy. Thank you. Thank you Chief. Item number five, consider approval of amendment number one to the 2018 settlement agreement with Empower presented by our treasurer Michael

  34. know only there I mean they're gonna they're gonna be 20 years old but you have a fuel station there that's millions of dollars to put in you have you got all the mechanical stuff in there and again you're only doing them to DPW what I think what they liked about the building going over here is because of the elevation they need underground parking to bring in people and to have secured parking so it plays well into the design and we wanted to have an appearance we want to still have that appearance on Telegraph Road so people know where we're at we don't want to be hidden back behind where people have to try to find who we are we deal with that with court all day long but we want to still be present with our community knowing that we're here there is some there is some belief that that is a crime prevention tool. Val, the EOC would be moved into the police building next to dispatch. So it would be connected, which is how it should be. Well that makes sense, but when I toured, you know, the EOC is. Right. Well right now it is. Right. And so that made no sense. This would solve that. Oh sure. Yeah. I mean I could see a lot of, it seemed like everything was a little disjointed. Okay. Thank you Jimmy. Thank you. Thank you Chief. Item number five, consider approval of amendment number one to the 2018 settlement agreement with Empower presented by our treasurer Michael Shostak. Okay. I'll try not to get too into the weeds on this, but basically we have a defined benefit pension plan. It's administered by Empower who bought the pension business from Prudential. And about seven years ago we went into a mediation with at that time was Prudential to address certain issues we had with the contract that we have in it for administering the plan. And there was a settlement agreement that came to that set forth that we had to have a certain amount of cash on hand to cover the guaranteed benefits of the pension plan and a certain amount of cash to cover the non-guaranteed pension benefits. Now when I say non-guaranteed, they're still guaranteed by us, the township. And they're constitutionally protected. But the the guaranteed benefits are guaranteed additionally by Empower. So at that time we negotiated for six months worth of

  35. to the 2018 settlement agreement with Empower presented by our treasurer Michael Shostak. Okay. I'll try not to get too into the weeds on this, but basically we have a defined benefit pension plan. It's administered by Empower who bought the pension business from Prudential. And about seven years ago we went into a mediation with at that time was Prudential to address certain issues we had with the contract that we have in it for administering the plan. And there was a settlement agreement that came to that set forth that we had to have a certain amount of cash on hand to cover the guaranteed benefits of the pension plan and a certain amount of cash to cover the non-guaranteed pension benefits. Now when I say non-guaranteed, they're still guaranteed by us, the township. And they're constitutionally protected. But the the guaranteed benefits are guaranteed additionally by Empower. So at that time we negotiated for six months worth of non-guaranteed benefit payments to be kept on deposit with them. And as we've now grown over the last seven years, seven eight years, to all of our new pensions being non-guaranteed, so our benefits per month are growing, having six months worth of those payments on hand is really because that money is basically earning very little when it's sitting with Empower versus being in our equity investments that are earning significantly more. So I negotiated with them and said, Look, guys, you know, six months is a lot. You know, we have a track record of paying, you know, covering our benefits without any issue. I'd like to go down to three months, they came back and agreed to four months. So it's saving two months worth of cash that's being on deposit with Empower. And I estimate that that'll save about a million and a half dollars, as of today, that we can keep invested in our equity portfolio and generating significantly more return than the couple of percentage points it's getting from Empower. So all I'm asking is

  36. additionally by Empower. So at that time we negotiated for six months worth of non-guaranteed benefit payments to be kept on deposit with them. And as we've now grown over the last seven years, seven eight years, to all of our new pensions being non-guaranteed, so our benefits per month are growing, having six months worth of those payments on hand is really because that money is basically earning very little when it's sitting with Empower versus being in our equity investments that are earning significantly more. So I negotiated with them and said, Look, guys, you know, six months is a lot. You know, we have a track record of paying, you know, covering our benefits without any issue. I'd like to go down to three months, they came back and agreed to four months. So it's saving two months worth of cash that's being on deposit with Empower. And I estimate that that'll save about a million and a half dollars, as of today, that we can keep invested in our equity portfolio and generating significantly more return than the couple of percentage points it's getting from Empower. So all I'm asking is that you authorize me to sign amendment number one to the 2018 settlement agreement that will reduce the amount of funds that need to be on deposit with Empower. Okay, any questions for Michael? I'd like to make a motion. Support. I do have one question for Michael. So these are tied to the pension bond. No, they're not. Empower is not related to the pension bond. The assets that we're generated for the pension bond. The assets from the pension bond are in our equities portfolio. And those are what's covering the additional payments going in? So historically over the last seven to eight years we have not had to move that much money over to Empower because we had enough on deposit to cover the guaranteed and the non-guaranteed benefits. Now that we've had more people retire and they're getting non-guaranteed benefits, the amount of cash that we have to keep on hand with them at six months has grown to the point that it's a much more serious amount of money that if we can keep any of that cash in our equities portfolio earning more money that's better for the long-term health of the plan. I'm not disagreeing with that. Okay. I just wanted what it does is it it

  37. that you authorize me to sign amendment number one to the 2018 settlement agreement that will reduce the amount of funds that need to be on deposit with Empower. Okay, any questions for Michael? I'd like to make a motion. Support. I do have one question for Michael. So these are tied to the pension bond. No, they're not. Empower is not related to the pension bond. The assets that we're generated for the pension bond. The assets from the pension bond are in our equities portfolio. And those are what's covering the additional payments going in? So historically over the last seven to eight years we have not had to move that much money over to Empower because we had enough on deposit to cover the guaranteed and the non-guaranteed benefits. Now that we've had more people retire and they're getting non-guaranteed benefits, the amount of cash that we have to keep on hand with them at six months has grown to the point that it's a much more serious amount of money that if we can keep any of that cash in our equities portfolio earning more money that's better for the long-term health of the plan. I'm not disagreeing with that. Okay. I just wanted what it does is it it changes when the cash goes out and instead of having six months of cash for future payments. from what's supposed to be funded from our equity side, it stays there longer, and the amount of cash that they hold to cover that portion is reduced. Right. So essentially, we always have to have four months on deposit, which means that each month we have to pay them one month's worth of payments. So we're going to transfer from the equities portfolio to empower one month's worth of payments every month. Which we've already been doing anyway, but it's been a lower amount. Now that that amount is getting bigger, by transferring that, like, I'm saying to them, look, we're paying you every month, you know, or quarterly right now, you know, we're not a risk. So you don't need six months on deposit. Because they're saying, we need six months on deposit in case you don't pay us because we're on the hook to pay the pensions. And so I'm saying, look, we've demonstrated a track record of we're paying you. You don't need six months on deposit as insurance. You can afford to take four months, and we'll continue to make those payments going forward.

  38. plan. I'm not disagreeing with that. Okay. I just wanted what it does is it it changes when the cash goes out and instead of having six months of cash for future payments. from what's supposed to be funded from our equity side, it stays there longer, and the amount of cash that they hold to cover that portion is reduced. Right. So essentially, we always have to have four months on deposit, which means that each month we have to pay them one month's worth of payments. So we're going to transfer from the equities portfolio to empower one month's worth of payments every month. Which we've already been doing anyway, but it's been a lower amount. Now that that amount is getting bigger, by transferring that, like, I'm saying to them, look, we're paying you every month, you know, or quarterly right now, you know, we're not a risk. So you don't need six months on deposit. Because they're saying, we need six months on deposit in case you don't pay us because we're on the hook to pay the pensions. And so I'm saying, look, we've demonstrated a track record of we're paying you. You don't need six months on deposit as insurance. You can afford to take four months, and we'll continue to make those payments going forward. And are they going to refund that, or will that amount be brought down, and then our payments will continue again? Basically, what I did for this last month is I paid them enough money to bring it to the four months. Okay. And so technically, they're still saying we owe them another million. and a half right okay and I said well let's get the settlement agreement done and approved by the board I can sign it send it back to them and then they'll wipe out that one and a half million because now they're gonna go from six months to four months okay so you so we're already on deposit with the four months okay yeah okay good okay so Val made a motion and Chris support all in favor say aye aye any opposed passes seven to nothing item number six yep item number six back to you Michael consider approval amendment number three to Bloomfield Township retirement income plan right okay so this is still talking about the pension but it's different now than what we just talked about so the way you know we have long-term liabilities from having to pay these pension benefits that are that we've guaranteed we're currently 90

  39. You can afford to take four months, and we'll continue to make those payments going forward. And are they going to refund that, or will that amount be brought down, and then our payments will continue again? Basically, what I did for this last month is I paid them enough money to bring it to the four months. Okay. And so technically, they're still saying we owe them another million. and a half right okay and I said well let's get the settlement agreement done and approved by the board I can sign it send it back to them and then they'll wipe out that one and a half million because now they're gonna go from six months to four months okay so you so we're already on deposit with the four months okay yeah okay good okay so Val made a motion and Chris support all in favor say aye aye any opposed passes seven to nothing item number six yep item number six back to you Michael consider approval amendment number three to Bloomfield Township retirement income plan right okay so this is still talking about the pension but it's different now than what we just talked about so the way you know we have long-term liabilities from having to pay these pension benefits that are that we've guaranteed we're currently 90 percent funded against our present value of future benefits I've been looking at since I came into office trying to find ways to reduce those liabilities those long-term liabilities and one of the ways that we can do that is by offering our retirees basically a buyout right so instead of them collecting a pension we would give them a lump sum today and then their pension would be off the books so in order to you know done a lot of research worked with the power to make sure that this would be a seamless process we had to negotiate with the unions to get this put in into the union agreements so that we could offer these. Now what we need to do to finalize it is we have to amend our pension plan document to allow for these lump sum payments. And the benefit there is it mitigates risk for us because it takes them off the books and we don't have any longevity risk with them. People outliving their pensions, right? We have a dozen people who are collecting pensions who are in their 90s, okay? I guarantee you when they were working 40 years ago,

  40. to pay these pension benefits that are that we've guaranteed we're currently 90 percent funded against our present value of future benefits I've been looking at since I came into office trying to find ways to reduce those liabilities those long-term liabilities and one of the ways that we can do that is by offering our retirees basically a buyout right so instead of them collecting a pension we would give them a lump sum today and then their pension would be off the books so in order to you know done a lot of research worked with the power to make sure that this would be a seamless process we had to negotiate with the unions to get this put in into the union agreements so that we could offer these. Now what we need to do to finalize it is we have to amend our pension plan document to allow for these lump sum payments. And the benefit there is it mitigates risk for us because it takes them off the books and we don't have any longevity risk with them. People outliving their pensions, right? We have a dozen people who are collecting pensions who are in their 90s, okay? I guarantee you when they were working 40 years ago, that wasn't how the actuaries told us to put money aside. And so we're still paying that. Tell them about the guy who was- No, I don't want to do that. Well, so Michael is the only choice- We had someone who was 105 collectible. He just passed away, bless his heart. So is the only option 100% buyout or not at all? Because I know sometimes you can do a percentage. So this is like- Yes, this is an all or nothing. Okay, thank you. And one of the advantages for the pensioneers is like, if life expectancy changes, they'll have their money, their family would have their money, versus the pension stops when you pass on, basically. So I think it's a nice, well-thought-out program. Thank you, Michael. And we've been talking about this for quite some time, so this is just solidifying. Right, right. Yeah, and just to be clear, this is purely voluntary and optional. We're not forcing anybody to take a buyout. But it's a great option. it's a great option I've already gotten some interest from people active employees who are looking to retire in the next couple of years they asked me how this would work and you know and it's great because you know one of the police officers that came to talk to me said well my wife is a teacher so we

  41. I guarantee you when they were working 40 years ago, that wasn't how the actuaries told us to put money aside. And so we're still paying that. Tell them about the guy who was- No, I don't want to do that. Well, so Michael is the only choice- We had someone who was 105 collectible. He just passed away, bless his heart. So is the only option 100% buyout or not at all? Because I know sometimes you can do a percentage. So this is like- Yes, this is an all or nothing. Okay, thank you. And one of the advantages for the pensioneers is like, if life expectancy changes, they'll have their money, their family would have their money, versus the pension stops when you pass on, basically. So I think it's a nice, well-thought-out program. Thank you, Michael. And we've been talking about this for quite some time, so this is just solidifying. Right, right. Yeah, and just to be clear, this is purely voluntary and optional. We're not forcing anybody to take a buyout. But it's a great option. it's a great option I've already gotten some interest from people active employees who are looking to retire in the next couple of years they asked me how this would work and you know and it's great because you know one of the police officers that came to talk to me said well my wife is a teacher so we have her pension I don't need a second pension we'd rather have the cash right well it's kind of like the lottery you know you win the lottery it's like do you want it all up front or do you want it over 20 years everybody has a different so which did you take what did you take I didn't get one no no no no so yeah but the bottom line is is that this is accretive to the plan which means that it improves our funded ratio and it it mitigates any longevity risk that we have we give away the money we're done Michael thanks for bringing it to the board it's really well thought out I know we've discussed it several times of the board and I'm certainly in favor of it and like to make a motion that we approve it I do have some questions for Michael do you want to do it after the motion or before go ahead mark you mean after we vote on it no after well the discussion can occur yes but how are we going to we're going to right now we currently pay the actuary payments into the fund based on allocating it across departments

  42. police officers that came to talk to me said well my wife is a teacher so we have her pension I don't need a second pension we'd rather have the cash right well it's kind of like the lottery you know you win the lottery it's like do you want it all up front or do you want it over 20 years everybody has a different so which did you take what did you take I didn't get one no no no no so yeah but the bottom line is is that this is accretive to the plan which means that it improves our funded ratio and it it mitigates any longevity risk that we have we give away the money we're done Michael thanks for bringing it to the board it's really well thought out I know we've discussed it several times of the board and I'm certainly in favor of it and like to make a motion that we approve it I do have some questions for Michael do you want to do it after the motion or before go ahead mark you mean after we vote on it no after well the discussion can occur yes but how are we going to we're going to right now we currently pay the actuary payments into the fund based on allocating it across departments That's correct. So when the buyout occurs what will be the mechanism to modify the budget and payout from the department? It won't impact the budget. The payout will come from the trust. The payout will come from the trust but that will change the liability of a specific department. Yes it would and then the following year based on the new weighted average of employees because we do it by department. So if the police department has X percent of the retirees and the fire department has X percent of the retirees that's how the ADCs get allocated it would impact. So if two police officers took the buyouts they would be off the books. The police the relative liability of the police department would go down. So why wouldn't that buyout come from the specific department because you have to fund it? Yeah well I mean it's coming from the trust because the trust is where the benefits get paid. So if they choose not to take this and they choose to collect the pension that pension comes from the trust. It

  43. That's correct. So when the buyout occurs what will be the mechanism to modify the budget and payout from the department? It won't impact the budget. The payout will come from the trust. The payout will come from the trust but that will change the liability of a specific department. Yes it would and then the following year based on the new weighted average of employees because we do it by department. So if the police department has X percent of the retirees and the fire department has X percent of the retirees that's how the ADCs get allocated it would impact. So if two police officers took the buyouts they would be off the books. The police the relative liability of the police department would go down. So why wouldn't that buyout come from the specific department because you have to fund it? Yeah well I mean it's coming from the trust because the trust is where the benefits get paid. So if they choose not to take this and they choose to collect the pension that pension comes from the trust. It doesn't come from the department. The departments only fund the trust right now you know based on the ADC but the benefits have to be paid from the trust. we can't pay it out of our operating budget. But you could make a contribution into the trust. Which we do every year. Correct. So why wouldn't you use the, there's a portion of cash that's there now and there's a portion of future payments. So why wouldn't you pull that? There's a portion of cash there. That's already booked as an asset. In the trust or? In the trust. Okay. So you have, yeah, you have the trust, you have our assets, you have future liabilities, and it's supposed to pay out on an annual basis. So when you do the buyout, you will pay monthly. Yeah. So when you, when you do the buyout, you pull forward a lot of those future payments. Yeah. So why wouldn't, shouldn't that come from the department? Wouldn't the ADC just be updated from our actuaries based on this? Every time it's updated with a new person selling out of it, or being purchased, ah, being bought out

  44. this and they choose to collect the pension that pension comes from the trust. It doesn't come from the department. The departments only fund the trust right now you know based on the ADC but the benefits have to be paid from the trust. we can't pay it out of our operating budget. But you could make a contribution into the trust. Which we do every year. Correct. So why wouldn't you use the, there's a portion of cash that's there now and there's a portion of future payments. So why wouldn't you pull that? There's a portion of cash there. That's already booked as an asset. In the trust or? In the trust. Okay. So you have, yeah, you have the trust, you have our assets, you have future liabilities, and it's supposed to pay out on an annual basis. So when you do the buyout, you will pay monthly. Yeah. So when you, when you do the buyout, you pull forward a lot of those future payments. Yeah. So why wouldn't, shouldn't that come from the department? Wouldn't the ADC just be updated from our actuaries based on this? Every time it's updated with a new person selling out of it, or being purchased, ah, being bought out of their liability in the trust. Yeah. The ADCs would be updated in future years based on what departments would have. Yeah, it would be, it would be no different than if we would be able to do it every year because it changes that. It would be no different than if a retiree passes away. Correct. Every year, we, we look at the census of the, of the pension plan, and then it's allocated pro rata to the departments. But it changes every year based on who retires, who's active, and who passes away. I like that explanation because it's consistent if someone passes away and it's consistent as the money is getting pulled out. Will we be using the actuary contributions to help offset that? I mean I guess yeah. We're going to make the actuarial contribution to the plan as per the Milliman report but the ADC will actually be impacted because the benefit of the of the lump sum buyouts is that it'll reduce it'll reduce our net liability. It'll

  45. Every time it's updated with a new person selling out of it, or being purchased, ah, being bought out of their liability in the trust. Yeah. The ADCs would be updated in future years based on what departments would have. Yeah, it would be, it would be no different than if we would be able to do it every year because it changes that. It would be no different than if a retiree passes away. Correct. Every year, we, we look at the census of the, of the pension plan, and then it's allocated pro rata to the departments. But it changes every year based on who retires, who's active, and who passes away. I like that explanation because it's consistent if someone passes away and it's consistent as the money is getting pulled out. Will we be using the actuary contributions to help offset that? I mean I guess yeah. We're going to make the actuarial contribution to the plan as per the Milliman report but the ADC will actually be impacted because the benefit of the of the lump sum buyouts is that it'll reduce it'll reduce our net liability. It'll increase the funding status of the plan so our ADC's will come down over time which they are anyway because we've got people passing away but it's a closed pension so there's no new people being added so the only way that the liabilities come off the books is when somebody dies. Mark did you have any other questions? No yeah. Okay motion by Neil and support by Val. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passed the seven to nothing. Okay item number seven public hearing of assessment item number two or number two consider approval of the resolution confirming the special assessment roll for the green phase of Bloomfield Village road paving special just special assessment district SAD number 430 and authorizing the Road Commission for Oakland County, the RCOC, to proceed with the project presented by our Deputy Assessor Jennifer Werthmann. Welcome Jennifer. Thank you. I like that mouthful. Yeah, it was. It is. Okay, so we're gonna start off with Bloomfield Village. This is our fifth phase, fifth and final phase. We're super excited to be here today. So phase five is a little different than the first four phases. As you can tell, it kind of spans almost the entire width of the village. This was kind of worked out at the beginning of starting this whole process to try and reduce any sort of passage of construction vehicles over newly paved roads, etc, etc. So it also includes the main kind of vein through the

  46. buyouts is that it'll reduce it'll reduce our net liability. It'll increase the funding status of the plan so our ADC's will come down over time which they are anyway because we've got people passing away but it's a closed pension so there's no new people being added so the only way that the liabilities come off the books is when somebody dies. Mark did you have any other questions? No yeah. Okay motion by Neil and support by Val. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passed the seven to nothing. Okay item number seven public hearing of assessment item number two or number two consider approval of the resolution confirming the special assessment roll for the green phase of Bloomfield Village road paving special just special assessment district SAD number 430 and authorizing the Road Commission for Oakland County, the RCOC, to proceed with the project presented by our Deputy Assessor Jennifer Werthmann. Welcome Jennifer. Thank you. I like that mouthful. Yeah, it was. It is. Okay, so we're gonna start off with Bloomfield Village. This is our fifth phase, fifth and final phase. We're super excited to be here today. So phase five is a little different than the first four phases. As you can tell, it kind of spans almost the entire width of the village. This was kind of worked out at the beginning of starting this whole process to try and reduce any sort of passage of construction vehicles over newly paved roads, etc, etc. So it also includes the main kind of vein through the village of Bradway, which does tend to be one of the worst condition roads through there, too. We are in phase five, we are including part of Judson Bradway, Bloomfield Village, part of Judson Bradway, Bloomfield Village, number one, number two, number four, and number seven. We're looking at doing 3.02 miles of public road, which is going to include, as I mentioned, South Bradway Boulevard, Covington Place, Overhill Road, Morning View Terrace, Sunnydale Road, North Glengarry Road, Ensley Drive, Amberley Road, Hupp Cross Road, Tuckahoe Road, Drury Lane, and North Cranbrook Cross. As per usual, we're looking at pulverizing the existing road, and four inches of asphalt pavement will be placed over an aggregate base

  47. today. So phase five is a little different than the first four phases. As you can tell, it kind of spans almost the entire width of the village. This was kind of worked out at the beginning of starting this whole process to try and reduce any sort of passage of construction vehicles over newly paved roads, etc, etc. So it also includes the main kind of vein through the village of Bradway, which does tend to be one of the worst condition roads through there, too. We are in phase five, we are including part of Judson Bradway, Bloomfield Village, part of Judson Bradway, Bloomfield Village, number one, number two, number four, and number seven. We're looking at doing 3.02 miles of public road, which is going to include, as I mentioned, South Bradway Boulevard, Covington Place, Overhill Road, Morning View Terrace, Sunnydale Road, North Glengarry Road, Ensley Drive, Amberley Road, Hupp Cross Road, Tuckahoe Road, Drury Lane, and North Cranbrook Cross. As per usual, we're looking at pulverizing the existing road, and four inches of asphalt pavement will be placed over an aggregate base with the full-depth cold milling asphalt removed. We're doing a total curb and gutter removal and replacement with total under-drain installation, sodded shoulders, and minor drainage improvements to reasonably assure drainage of the pavement surface. We will also be doing a maximum five-foot approach constructed to each existing driveway to provide that smooth transition from the newly paved roadways where necessary. We have a couple pictures included just to kind of show what we're working with through here. And then we've also included some pictures of our new roads through the village, which is absolutely beautiful. RCOC received bids on March 31st of 2026. Our lowest bidder was F Allied Construction. They came in with a lovely estimated project cost of $7,677,826.65. We have a total parcel count of 199 units in the village, and there are 195, which would receive a full unit of benefit. This brought our tentative assessment down to $39,300. And three-

  48. and four inches of asphalt pavement will be placed over an aggregate base with the full-depth cold milling asphalt removed. We're doing a total curb and gutter removal and replacement with total under-drain installation, sodded shoulders, and minor drainage improvements to reasonably assure drainage of the pavement surface. We will also be doing a maximum five-foot approach constructed to each existing driveway to provide that smooth transition from the newly paved roadways where necessary. We have a couple pictures included just to kind of show what we're working with through here. And then we've also included some pictures of our new roads through the village, which is absolutely beautiful. RCOC received bids on March 31st of 2026. Our lowest bidder was F Allied Construction. They came in with a lovely estimated project cost of $7,677,826.65. We have a total parcel count of 199 units in the village, and there are 195, which would receive a full unit of benefit. This brought our tentative assessment down to $39,300. And three- 73 47 and just to kind of reiterate where we started uh we were at about 52 569 at the beginning of this process so we're pretty excited um a little bit of just kind of uh information for the board uh we have really uh kind of hammered down on the road commission mark metzler has been so influential in trying to get as much back as we can trying to get as much input trying to get um you know that pencil really sharp on these estimates as you all are aware we just had to do some pretty large refunds for red and blue we don't kind of know where we're at yet with yellow and gold but we really wanted to try and mitigate those those uh refunds so we've really got them to tune their pencils down so we could get as close of an estimate as possible we also um um we have received almost a million dollars back from the road commission in contributions to this project for numerous reasons they did give us a 50 contribution back on their administration fees and then through some kind of bargaining back and forth they did recognize the usage of bradway and that it is used by so many people resident and non-resident and it's used as a cut through kind

  49. 73 47 and just to kind of reiterate where we started uh we were at about 52 569 at the beginning of this process so we're pretty excited um a little bit of just kind of uh information for the board uh we have really uh kind of hammered down on the road commission mark metzler has been so influential in trying to get as much back as we can trying to get as much input trying to get um you know that pencil really sharp on these estimates as you all are aware we just had to do some pretty large refunds for red and blue we don't kind of know where we're at yet with yellow and gold but we really wanted to try and mitigate those those uh refunds so we've really got them to tune their pencils down so we could get as close of an estimate as possible we also um um we have received almost a million dollars back from the road commission in contributions to this project for numerous reasons they did give us a 50 contribution back on their administration fees and then through some kind of bargaining back and forth they did recognize the usage of bradway and that it is used by so many people resident and non-resident and it's used as a cut through kind of a feeder road of sorts so that's why we were able to kind of secure that extra half a million dollar contribution as well so it was really helpful um so anyway assessments are financed over 15 years and the interest is determined after the bonds are sold and we go one percent above that bond rate our requested actions tonight is that we hold our public hearing number two that the board approved resolution number three and that we can go ahead and authorize the Road Commission to proceed with the project okay thank you Jennifer so we'll hold off any questions and we'll open up for public comment so if you're here to comment on the green section for the village you can come up to the microphone and ask you to introduce yourself your address and keep your comments if you would to three minutes my name is Ann Ambrose I live at 2840 Amberley Road in Bloomfield Village my

  50. that it is used by so many people resident and non-resident and it's used as a cut through kind of a feeder road of sorts so that's why we were able to kind of secure that extra half a million dollar contribution as well so it was really helpful um so anyway assessments are financed over 15 years and the interest is determined after the bonds are sold and we go one percent above that bond rate our requested actions tonight is that we hold our public hearing number two that the board approved resolution number three and that we can go ahead and authorize the Road Commission to proceed with the project okay thank you Jennifer so we'll hold off any questions and we'll open up for public comment so if you're here to comment on the green section for the village you can come up to the microphone and ask you to introduce yourself your address and keep your comments if you would to three minutes my name is Ann Ambrose I live at 2840 Amberley Road in Bloomfield Village my husband Mark and I are deeply concerned that Amberley Road was placed into the green section I understand the sections have already been determined but just to highlight those in the green section are being asked to subsidize public areas in the village it includes the only park in the village it includes the fire station it includes the section by Kroger and again it includes Bradway Road which is a major thorough is a major thorough used by every single person in the village it is easily twice as large as any other street in the village wide as well as long which place additional assessments and costs on those in the green section which we feel this is completely unfair and arbitrary I understand that they tried to come up with a section that would be convenient for the construction crew but that doesn't justify the additional cost that those of us who happen to live in the green section are being asked to bear when the public areas of the village should have been assessed equally to everyone especially if you're going to talk about the park section and the fire department it cannot be that only the

  51. my name is Ann Ambrose I live at 2840 Amberley Road in Bloomfield Village my husband Mark and I are deeply concerned that Amberley Road was placed into the green section I understand the sections have already been determined but just to highlight those in the green section are being asked to subsidize public areas in the village it includes the only park in the village it includes the fire station it includes the section by Kroger and again it includes Bradway Road which is a major thorough is a major thorough used by every single person in the village it is easily twice as large as any other street in the village wide as well as long which place additional assessments and costs on those in the green section which we feel this is completely unfair and arbitrary I understand that they tried to come up with a section that would be convenient for the construction crew but that doesn't justify the additional cost that those of us who happen to live in the green section are being asked to bear when the public areas of the village should have been assessed equally to everyone especially if you're going to talk about the park section and the fire department it cannot be that only the people who were determined to live in the green section should have to bear these added costs they should be split everybody living in the village additionally when they were doing the phase 4 which I believe was the yellow section it placed a serious safety risk in particular I have a son who is severely autistic he has a special needs transport provided by the school district that picks him up and drops him off at our driveway during the week the construction crew continuously blocked access our school bus and the school bus of other young kids in the area causing kids to have to run in the street my son my special needs son would have to get out of his special bus in the middle of the intersection and try and navigate through ongoing cars and construction crew the construction company was not receptive to my concerns i do want to say i did call the police department at the very end when i had lost my patience and i contacted the village uh the people at the village

  52. talk about the park section and the fire department it cannot be that only the people who were determined to live in the green section should have to bear these added costs they should be split everybody living in the village additionally when they were doing the phase 4 which I believe was the yellow section it placed a serious safety risk in particular I have a son who is severely autistic he has a special needs transport provided by the school district that picks him up and drops him off at our driveway during the week the construction crew continuously blocked access our school bus and the school bus of other young kids in the area causing kids to have to run in the street my son my special needs son would have to get out of his special bus in the middle of the intersection and try and navigate through ongoing cars and construction crew the construction company was not receptive to my concerns i do want to say i did call the police department at the very end when i had lost my patience and i contacted the village uh the people at the village and they were both wonderful and immediately addressed the issue so i would just say in my last 15 seconds if you're going to go ahead with this it's imperative that you meet with the construction crew and come up with a safety plan for all the school kids in the area that are getting on and off school buses and for special needs people like my son who cannot navigate the middle of an intersection through uh you know busy cars and things like that so if you would please meet with them and come up with a safety plan it would be greatly appreciated thank you thank you my name is brian cot i live at 138 hub cross road in in the village um um i've been involved in this process for maybe six seven years um the residents of the community have gotten together and agreed to one of the largest projects that Oakland County has ever built, the Road Commission. If you take the five sections of the roads that we've done, I think Mark will certify this is the largest project ever undertaken by the Oakland County Road Commission.

  53. the very end when i had lost my patience and i contacted the village uh the people at the village and they were both wonderful and immediately addressed the issue so i would just say in my last 15 seconds if you're going to go ahead with this it's imperative that you meet with the construction crew and come up with a safety plan for all the school kids in the area that are getting on and off school buses and for special needs people like my son who cannot navigate the middle of an intersection through uh you know busy cars and things like that so if you would please meet with them and come up with a safety plan it would be greatly appreciated thank you thank you my name is brian cot i live at 138 hub cross road in in the village um um i've been involved in this process for maybe six seven years um the residents of the community have gotten together and agreed to one of the largest projects that Oakland County has ever built, the Road Commission. If you take the five sections of the roads that we've done, I think Mark will certify this is the largest project ever undertaken by the Oakland County Road Commission. Our current pricing reflects the education that we've gotten over the past three years in how to do these projects. It's been lower. We've been able to lower the process. We've been able to reduce costs. The whole process, I think, has been very positive. I think that we have no choice but to move forward with this. I do want to thank the board for the way they've handled the overpayments and returning that back to the residents now rather than at the end of the project when we could have waited 15 years to get our money, their money back. I'm not in those guys. I'm in the new one. But I'll benefit from a lower price. But the board has been very helpful on this and positive. This has to be done. There's no choice. The roads as they exist are terrible. The roads as they exist are terrible.

  54. I think Mark will certify this is the largest project ever undertaken by the Oakland County Road Commission. Our current pricing reflects the education that we've gotten over the past three years in how to do these projects. It's been lower. We've been able to lower the process. We've been able to reduce costs. The whole process, I think, has been very positive. I think that we have no choice but to move forward with this. I do want to thank the board for the way they've handled the overpayments and returning that back to the residents now rather than at the end of the project when we could have waited 15 years to get our money, their money back. I'm not in those guys. I'm in the new one. But I'll benefit from a lower price. But the board has been very helpful on this and positive. This has to be done. There's no choice. The roads as they exist are terrible. The roads as they exist are terrible. And this section reflects all of the positive things that have occurred in this process. And I want to thank you again. Let's see. Oh, the other thing is there were some complaints about the long, the time it's taken the petition, that this petition was outstanding. We return those petitions within six months, which is the suggested time period in the petition. So I think that everybody here has done an excellent job. Thank you very much. Thank you, Brian. If there's no further comment, public comment, oh, Kathy, sure. I'm not sure I can add a whole lot to what Brian had to say there other than to recognize both the township staff and this board for your support throughout this process. It has been a long road, pun intended, to get here. I think we started this 10 years, over 10 years ago, with the Road Commission doing expressions of interest. The last four years have been hot and heavy with petitioning

  55. And this section reflects all of the positive things that have occurred in this process. And I want to thank you again. Let's see. Oh, the other thing is there were some complaints about the long, the time it's taken the petition, that this petition was outstanding. We return those petitions within six months, which is the suggested time period in the petition. So I think that everybody here has done an excellent job. Thank you very much. Thank you, Brian. If there's no further comment, public comment, oh, Kathy, sure. I'm not sure I can add a whole lot to what Brian had to say there other than to recognize both the township staff and this board for your support throughout this process. It has been a long road, pun intended, to get here. I think we started this 10 years, over 10 years ago, with the Road Commission doing expressions of interest. The last four years have been hot and heavy with petitioning and construction, we've tried to do it the right way, and we really appreciate you walking with us hand in hand to get through this process. This is a generational transformation of our neighborhood. And I hope ward... And I hope for... these three miles of road will be the last of our vintage 1960s road. It will not, I'm ready to give them a fond farewell. And I cannot wait for us to do a really great ribbon cutting in the fall when we have 16 miles of brand new road. So I ask you for support and thank you for being with us in this process over these years. Thank you. Thank you, Kathy. Okay, if there's no further public comment, I'll close the public hearing and open up to the board of trustees for any questions or comments. The only comment I have is just to make sure that throughout the construction process and the planning process that the concerns are addressed for the school's children, special needs children. I think it's very important and certainly valid, very valid point. Absolutely, and we are lucky enough that we have Mark Metzler who spends a significant amount of time in these projects.

  56. The last four years have been hot and heavy with petitioning and construction, we've tried to do it the right way, and we really appreciate you walking with us hand in hand to get through this process. This is a generational transformation of our neighborhood. And I hope ward... And I hope for... these three miles of road will be the last of our vintage 1960s road. It will not, I'm ready to give them a fond farewell. And I cannot wait for us to do a really great ribbon cutting in the fall when we have 16 miles of brand new road. So I ask you for support and thank you for being with us in this process over these years. Thank you. Thank you, Kathy. Okay, if there's no further public comment, I'll close the public hearing and open up to the board of trustees for any questions or comments. The only comment I have is just to make sure that throughout the construction process and the planning process that the concerns are addressed for the school's children, special needs children. I think it's very important and certainly valid, very valid point. Absolutely, and we are lucky enough that we have Mark Metzler who spends a significant amount of time in these projects. So I see him back there taking notes, and I am 100% sure he'll make sure it gets taken care of. Well, I look forward to the ribbon cutting in the fall. I went to one of the other ribbon cuttings and got to see some of the brand new roads, and what a transformation. So thank you to everybody who's worked on this. Thank you, Jen. Chris. Again, just a couple of maybe questions. Thank you. comments so somebody had mentioned that it seems like this area is offsetting some parks and some government buildings that other areas the other four sections in I don't believe the other four sections got that much money from the county did they so we're talking about a million dollars if it's about 40,000 that is roughly 20 units of benefit that are being subsidized by the county whether that is to our partnerships discussions negotiations mark you know all these people that's a lot that other areas in the village did not get absolutely there's I mean they gave back 50% on their admin fees but this was also the project cost was higher so they you know that 50% on the admin fee was high and then the 500,000 before there had been some questions about the

  57. Absolutely, and we are lucky enough that we have Mark Metzler who spends a significant amount of time in these projects. So I see him back there taking notes, and I am 100% sure he'll make sure it gets taken care of. Well, I look forward to the ribbon cutting in the fall. I went to one of the other ribbon cuttings and got to see some of the brand new roads, and what a transformation. So thank you to everybody who's worked on this. Thank you, Jen. Chris. Again, just a couple of maybe questions. Thank you. comments so somebody had mentioned that it seems like this area is offsetting some parks and some government buildings that other areas the other four sections in I don't believe the other four sections got that much money from the county did they so we're talking about a million dollars if it's about 40,000 that is roughly 20 units of benefit that are being subsidized by the county whether that is to our partnerships discussions negotiations mark you know all these people that's a lot that other areas in the village did not get absolutely there's I mean they gave back 50% on their admin fees but this was also the project cost was higher so they you know that 50% on the admin fee was high and then the 500,000 before there had been some questions about the commercial complex there that kind of borders on Bradway and Tuckahoe and they have a dual benefit to their paying twice because they have dual frontage so there was some concern that they weren't contributing and they are as well you know we've really tried to compensate for the excessive amount of usage of this section as well as you know just making sure everything's taken care of yeah it seems like we got that assessment down significantly and again because of that additional money we were able to hear from the county it did create a additional benefits to this section reducing that burden to each one of these residents so correct again I think this is great I'm glad that we are able to get across the finish line and I'm excited for your 16 miles so very nice beautiful roads so there's no other question i want to just clarify something um so mr cotton referenced the refunds that uh residents of blue and red or pink whatever you call it uh got back uh sizable refunds um but i want to make sure that the residents of this section don't get the expectation that that's going to happen for them because the reason that their assessment is at 39 000 versus the original estimate of 52 000 is because

  58. fee was high and then the 500,000 before there had been some questions about the commercial complex there that kind of borders on Bradway and Tuckahoe and they have a dual benefit to their paying twice because they have dual frontage so there was some concern that they weren't contributing and they are as well you know we've really tried to compensate for the excessive amount of usage of this section as well as you know just making sure everything's taken care of yeah it seems like we got that assessment down significantly and again because of that additional money we were able to hear from the county it did create a additional benefits to this section reducing that burden to each one of these residents so correct again I think this is great I'm glad that we are able to get across the finish line and I'm excited for your 16 miles so very nice beautiful roads so there's no other question i want to just clarify something um so mr cotton referenced the refunds that uh residents of blue and red or pink whatever you call it uh got back uh sizable refunds um but i want to make sure that the residents of this section don't get the expectation that that's going to happen for them because the reason that their assessment is at 39 000 versus the original estimate of 52 000 is because of the work we've put in and the lessons that we've learned from those two sections especially red and blue which were our first ones um we we have um you know really cracked down or really focused on what the pay items are going to be we've reduced the contingencies because we have more more expectation of what we're going to see um and so that's why this assessment is so much lower so uh i just want to make sure that um you know that the there's no expectation of a similar refund for this section because they're seeing it up front and a lower assessment well let's be hopeful i mean i would look i i have no problem sending people checks um if it's deserved but um i just want to again manage expectations bring light to the situation right well that that makes total sense but considering the original estimate was 52,000 and it came in at 39,000 that's over 20% so I think with you know Mark's help and and this board they they sharpen the pencil a few times more than the other projects were able to do so it's like you're getting a reduced

  59. the reason that their assessment is at 39 000 versus the original estimate of 52 000 is because of the work we've put in and the lessons that we've learned from those two sections especially red and blue which were our first ones um we we have um you know really cracked down or really focused on what the pay items are going to be we've reduced the contingencies because we have more more expectation of what we're going to see um and so that's why this assessment is so much lower so uh i just want to make sure that um you know that the there's no expectation of a similar refund for this section because they're seeing it up front and a lower assessment well let's be hopeful i mean i would look i i have no problem sending people checks um if it's deserved but um i just want to again manage expectations bring light to the situation right well that that makes total sense but considering the original estimate was 52,000 and it came in at 39,000 that's over 20% so I think with you know Mark's help and and this board they they sharpen the pencil a few times more than the other projects were able to do so it's like you're getting a reduced price up front so I think it's great well I mean the biggest I think the biggest reason is because with red and blue being the first projects and the scope of this project the extent that we of the work that needed to get done we had a really large contingency in there because the worst thing we could do is end up not having enough money to finish the projects we had a very large contingency in there and as we went through the project we realized we didn't need it and again like mr. Codd said we could have held that money for 15 years until the all the bonds are paid off and the district is closed but we felt very strongly that that money needed to go back right away rather than us sit on it so that's what we did so like to make a motion that I have a question about two individuals came in a few weeks ago they were concerned about some areas that were not finished I received some photos from them I drove through the community there were areas where drains were in the middle of driveways there were areas where the driveways weren't properly finished there were areas where items were not proper properly sodded have those issues been addressed

  60. than the other projects were able to do so it's like you're getting a reduced price up front so I think it's great well I mean the biggest I think the biggest reason is because with red and blue being the first projects and the scope of this project the extent that we of the work that needed to get done we had a really large contingency in there because the worst thing we could do is end up not having enough money to finish the projects we had a very large contingency in there and as we went through the project we realized we didn't need it and again like mr. Codd said we could have held that money for 15 years until the all the bonds are paid off and the district is closed but we felt very strongly that that money needed to go back right away rather than us sit on it so that's what we did so like to make a motion that I have a question about two individuals came in a few weeks ago they were concerned about some areas that were not finished I received some photos from them I drove through the community there were areas where drains were in the middle of driveways there were areas where the driveways weren't properly finished there were areas where items were not proper properly sodded have those issues been addressed yeah we did we walked through but mark will you come up and help answer those questions for mark please but this is not for the green section no he's asking about the yellow and gold section yeah uh we've met with the road commission um we walked the project both the road commission and myself and have identified all the concerns that we have which also included some residents concerns but we also looked outside of just the residents concerns we looked at concerns that we as bloomfield township have the road commission looked at concerns that they have and we've provided the contractor with a punch list so if you're not familiar with a punch list it's all of the things that need to be completed before we'll close a project out and make final payments on the project right and some of these i'm sorry fixed or replaced until the ground gets to a certain temperature until we get certain materials so right now we can't get topsoil topsoil is too wet to be able to get all it's going to do is clump up can't get in the fields to cut sod to be able to finish the sod etc etc so the asphalt plants aren't open so that we can address items of that nature we do have a meeting with the contractor the prime contractor on wednesday morning

  61. yeah we did we walked through but mark will you come up and help answer those questions for mark please but this is not for the green section no he's asking about the yellow and gold section yeah uh we've met with the road commission um we walked the project both the road commission and myself and have identified all the concerns that we have which also included some residents concerns but we also looked outside of just the residents concerns we looked at concerns that we as bloomfield township have the road commission looked at concerns that they have and we've provided the contractor with a punch list so if you're not familiar with a punch list it's all of the things that need to be completed before we'll close a project out and make final payments on the project right and some of these i'm sorry fixed or replaced until the ground gets to a certain temperature until we get certain materials so right now we can't get topsoil topsoil is too wet to be able to get all it's going to do is clump up can't get in the fields to cut sod to be able to finish the sod etc etc so the asphalt plants aren't open so that we can address items of that nature we do have a meeting with the contractor the prime contractor on wednesday morning to walk the site with them and review the punch list and etc etc so also we have a pre-construction meeting meeting with allied construction and the green phase wednesday afternoon so um i'll be sure to address your concerns with them also i'm going to provide you my contact information so that if you have any future concerns please feel free to reach out to me immediately and we'll get those results thank you mark mark any other questions uh how long uh will it take them to finish the punch list once items right now their completion date for uh sod and etc is july 17th it's it's in their contract in the cut by contract uh before they would potentially incur liquidated damages but mark this also they don't get their final payment till the punch list they will not get their final payment so again we hold that until they get this taken care of so we also by contract hold liquidated damages that were in the contract so they're outside of the project limits understanding that they do get compensated for rain days and things of that nature but if they're outside those limits then they get fined a certain amount 600 a day it's not

  62. of that nature we do have a meeting with the contractor the prime contractor on wednesday morning to walk the site with them and review the punch list and etc etc so also we have a pre-construction meeting meeting with allied construction and the green phase wednesday afternoon so um i'll be sure to address your concerns with them also i'm going to provide you my contact information so that if you have any future concerns please feel free to reach out to me immediately and we'll get those results thank you mark mark any other questions uh how long uh will it take them to finish the punch list once items right now their completion date for uh sod and etc is july 17th it's it's in their contract in the cut by contract uh before they would potentially incur liquidated damages but mark this also they don't get their final payment till the punch list they will not get their final payment so again we hold that until they get this taken care of so we also by contract hold liquidated damages that were in the contract so they're outside of the project limits understanding that they do get compensated for rain days and things of that nature but if they're outside those limits then they get fined a certain amount 600 a day it's not just on goodwill that they'll come back when the weather changes we we hold them right and i walked the whole project with mark and with the two gentlemen that came in greg and tim and then i had corey almost go out and walk it as well so we have a whole punch list we know what items are in question what needs to be addressed we just have to now wait for time and whether to move in okay well thank you for the explanation and if similar events arise in the current section we're discussing uh they can take to you and absolutely okay we have a team amongst the Road Commission the village and myself we actually have weekly meetings with that is required by contract with the contractor to discuss concerns and project expectations and etc etc so both of those gentlemen have my contact information they know that they're more than welcome to reach out okay thank you for addressing the issues greatly appreciate it okay Chris were you about to make a motion I was I'd like to make a motion that we approved as me support support by the Neil pardon me Michael comments if all in favor say aye aye any opposed it passes seven to nothing thank you item number eight public hearing of assessment number two

  63. nature but if they're outside those limits then they get fined a certain amount 600 a day it's not just on goodwill that they'll come back when the weather changes we we hold them right and i walked the whole project with mark and with the two gentlemen that came in greg and tim and then i had corey almost go out and walk it as well so we have a whole punch list we know what items are in question what needs to be addressed we just have to now wait for time and whether to move in okay well thank you for the explanation and if similar events arise in the current section we're discussing uh they can take to you and absolutely okay we have a team amongst the Road Commission the village and myself we actually have weekly meetings with that is required by contract with the contractor to discuss concerns and project expectations and etc etc so both of those gentlemen have my contact information they know that they're more than welcome to reach out okay thank you for addressing the issues greatly appreciate it okay Chris were you about to make a motion I was I'd like to make a motion that we approved as me support support by the Neil pardon me Michael comments if all in favor say aye aye any opposed it passes seven to nothing thank you item number eight public hearing of assessment number two consider approval of the resolution confirming the special assessment role for Berner Estates road paving special assessment district number 431 and consider authorizing the Road Commission for Oakland County otherwise known as RCOC to proceed with the project presented by deputy assessor Jennifer Werthmann welcome back Jennifer thank you this one is you'll have to dig back in your memory banks for this one because I haven't been here for a little over a year on them Berner Estates we started this process and then our DPW doing their due diligence realized that we had some water main work that needed to be done in this neighborhood so they kind of got put on a one-year hold while we have gotten their water mains under control and now we are ready to move forward. This project includes Verner Estates and part of Overbrook West Road. It's going to span through Section 16 and 21. It includes Verner Estates, Verner Estates No. 1, No. 2, No. 3, and Overbrook West. We are looking at 2.9 miles of public roads, which is going to include Stonely Road, Ardmore Drive, Brightmoor Court, Conmore Court, Verner Court, Barchester Drive, Ardmore Court, Sandhurst Road, and Compton Way.

  64. nothing thank you item number eight public hearing of assessment number two consider approval of the resolution confirming the special assessment role for Berner Estates road paving special assessment district number 431 and consider authorizing the Road Commission for Oakland County otherwise known as RCOC to proceed with the project presented by deputy assessor Jennifer Werthmann welcome back Jennifer thank you this one is you'll have to dig back in your memory banks for this one because I haven't been here for a little over a year on them Berner Estates we started this process and then our DPW doing their due diligence realized that we had some water main work that needed to be done in this neighborhood so they kind of got put on a one-year hold while we have gotten their water mains under control and now we are ready to move forward. This project includes Verner Estates and part of Overbrook West Road. It's going to span through Section 16 and 21. It includes Verner Estates, Verner Estates No. 1, No. 2, No. 3, and Overbrook West. We are looking at 2.9 miles of public roads, which is going to include Stonely Road, Ardmore Drive, Brightmoor Court, Conmore Court, Verner Court, Barchester Drive, Ardmore Court, Sandhurst Road, and Compton Way. Once again, we're looking at pulverizing the existing road, and we're putting 4 inches of asphalt pavement placed over an aggregate base with a full-depth cold milling asphalt removal. Total curb and gutter removal and replacement where present. Total underdrain installation with sodded shoulders and minor drainage improvements to reasonably assure drainage of the pavement surface. All shoulders and disturbed areas will be covered with topsoil and sod. A maximum 5-foot approach will be constructed to the existing driveways to provide the smooth transition from the newly paved roadways where necessary. Included some pictures. They have some rough roads in this neighborhood. Our COC received bids on March 3rd of 2026. Our lowest bidder was once again, F Allied construction. estimated project cost came in at three million eighteen thousand five fifty seven and seventy six cents this district has a hundred and sixty four parcels and there are 164 units of benefit we have managed to bring their tentative assessment down to eighteen thousand four oh five and eighty four

  65. Verner Court, Barchester Drive, Ardmore Court, Sandhurst Road, and Compton Way. Once again, we're looking at pulverizing the existing road, and we're putting 4 inches of asphalt pavement placed over an aggregate base with a full-depth cold milling asphalt removal. Total curb and gutter removal and replacement where present. Total underdrain installation with sodded shoulders and minor drainage improvements to reasonably assure drainage of the pavement surface. All shoulders and disturbed areas will be covered with topsoil and sod. A maximum 5-foot approach will be constructed to the existing driveways to provide the smooth transition from the newly paved roadways where necessary. Included some pictures. They have some rough roads in this neighborhood. Our COC received bids on March 3rd of 2026. Our lowest bidder was once again, F Allied construction. estimated project cost came in at three million eighteen thousand five fifty seven and seventy six cents this district has a hundred and sixty four parcels and there are 164 units of benefit we have managed to bring their tentative assessment down to eighteen thousand four oh five and eighty four cents per full unit of benefit and just to refresh your memory this has come down from twenty five thousand two oh five twenty nine at the beginning of this project so super happy about that we have received not only the fifty percent reduction in RCOC's admin fees but RCOC did also contribute an additional hundred and sixty four thousand dollars to this project giving back a thousand dollars to each unit of benefit so very enthusiastic about their contributions with these again these assessments can be financed over 15 years and the interest is determined after we sell our bonds one percent above the bond rate our requested action tonight is that we hold public hearing number two we approve this resolution number three and we go ahead and authorize RCOC to proceed with this project okay thank you Jennifer so we'll open up for public comment public hearing and if you're here to comment on the burner estates road paving project you can come up to the microphone and if you could introduce yourself tell us your address and keep your comments to three minutes we'd appreciate it my name is Lydia white I live at 44

  66. tentative assessment down to eighteen thousand four oh five and eighty four cents per full unit of benefit and just to refresh your memory this has come down from twenty five thousand two oh five twenty nine at the beginning of this project so super happy about that we have received not only the fifty percent reduction in RCOC's admin fees but RCOC did also contribute an additional hundred and sixty four thousand dollars to this project giving back a thousand dollars to each unit of benefit so very enthusiastic about their contributions with these again these assessments can be financed over 15 years and the interest is determined after we sell our bonds one percent above the bond rate our requested action tonight is that we hold public hearing number two we approve this resolution number three and we go ahead and authorize RCOC to proceed with this project okay thank you Jennifer so we'll open up for public comment public hearing and if you're here to comment on the burner estates road paving project you can come up to the microphone and if you could introduce yourself tell us your address and keep your comments to three minutes we'd appreciate it my name is Lydia white I live at 44 I will be the first to say that we are so excited about the fact that we're going to have new roads, because as you can see within some of those pictures, it's an obstacle course to get home. Having said that, I was at a homeowners meeting a couple years ago when it was coming and explained to us how they were going to tackle this project, and the gentleman that explained it, explained that, well, they would have a higher portion in the center of the road, and it would drain down, and it would keep the water off of the people's property on the upper levels, up the hill from our property, because we live at one of the lowest spots in Verner Estates. And he explained that it would keep the water off of all the upper properties and put it into the culvert to send it right down the hill. Well, that's right down to our corner, and we've had problems with that in the past. The road commission, some years back, had us rip out a six-inch pipe that was around the corner of our house that this prior owner had put in and replaced it with a 12-inch pipe. We did that. At the time, the road commission assured us that they were responsible for cleaning the

  67. I will be the first to say that we are so excited about the fact that we're going to have new roads, because as you can see within some of those pictures, it's an obstacle course to get home. Having said that, I was at a homeowners meeting a couple years ago when it was coming and explained to us how they were going to tackle this project, and the gentleman that explained it, explained that, well, they would have a higher portion in the center of the road, and it would drain down, and it would keep the water off of the people's property on the upper levels, up the hill from our property, because we live at one of the lowest spots in Verner Estates. And he explained that it would keep the water off of all the upper properties and put it into the culvert to send it right down the hill. Well, that's right down to our corner, and we've had problems with that in the past. The road commission, some years back, had us rip out a six-inch pipe that was around the corner of our house that this prior owner had put in and replaced it with a 12-inch pipe. We did that. At the time, the road commission assured us that they were responsible for cleaning the beehive at the corner. They've never been out. I get out there and I clean it out as best I can when I hear it's going to rain. With the new water drains it's been a challenge because they've ripped up everything and they've used you know the corner properties to sort of as their base with their trucks and their equipment and everything but now we've got new water water mains and they're still working on repairing it we're still having floods because when they dug up for the water mains they dug up all the dirt that goes into the beehives and every time it rains including today and tonight I'm expecting worse the yards flood the street floods I think my point right now is that I just want some assurance or some clarification as to how the new road commission a road establishment of the new roads is going to keep the water from coming down and undating our properties at the lower end I I mean I think that I'm not looking for I know that mother nature is mother nature and I'm not looking for a a gold

  68. At the time, the road commission assured us that they were responsible for cleaning the beehive at the corner. They've never been out. I get out there and I clean it out as best I can when I hear it's going to rain. With the new water drains it's been a challenge because they've ripped up everything and they've used you know the corner properties to sort of as their base with their trucks and their equipment and everything but now we've got new water water mains and they're still working on repairing it we're still having floods because when they dug up for the water mains they dug up all the dirt that goes into the beehives and every time it rains including today and tonight I'm expecting worse the yards flood the street floods I think my point right now is that I just want some assurance or some clarification as to how the new road commission a road establishment of the new roads is going to keep the water from coming down and undating our properties at the lower end I I mean I think that I'm not looking for I know that mother nature is mother nature and I'm not looking for a a gold plated guarantee but I would like some understanding that they've taken that into consideration and that we are not going to end up with lakefront property property on the corner of Stonely and Ardmore Thank you Hi Kevin Good evening my name is Kevin Wood I'm I'm resident of Werner Estates for 26 years and I'm the president for the last decade and I'm the guy that kind of spearheaded this project with some you know help from folks I would tell you that it's the number one discussion people really excited about it we're ready to get this done the roads are beyond you know pothole repair they're starting to disintegrate to the point that there really is some legitimate you know safety concerns we I think I had a hundred kids at my house for Halloween last year a ton of young families have moved in so bikes and kids we the roads are needed I just want you to know that the board and the residents are very anxious and very supportive for this project and I'm also very appreciative for the work Jennifer and Mark and collaboration with us you know we started this and kind of got locked down in COVID and then we

  69. for I know that mother nature is mother nature and I'm not looking for a a gold plated guarantee but I would like some understanding that they've taken that into consideration and that we are not going to end up with lakefront property property on the corner of Stonely and Ardmore Thank you Hi Kevin Good evening my name is Kevin Wood I'm I'm resident of Werner Estates for 26 years and I'm the president for the last decade and I'm the guy that kind of spearheaded this project with some you know help from folks I would tell you that it's the number one discussion people really excited about it we're ready to get this done the roads are beyond you know pothole repair they're starting to disintegrate to the point that there really is some legitimate you know safety concerns we I think I had a hundred kids at my house for Halloween last year a ton of young families have moved in so bikes and kids we the roads are needed I just want you to know that the board and the residents are very anxious and very supportive for this project and I'm also very appreciative for the work Jennifer and Mark and collaboration with us you know we started this and kind of got locked down in COVID and then we re-initiated it and then we did the waterline so we're on a six seven year journey hopefully by this fall we'll we'll be in so I just wanted to let you know we're very supportive thank you Kevin if there's no further public comment I'll close the public hearing open up for questions or comments from the board one more okay leave it open thanks for your time my name is Alex Grusso I'm at 4043 so only yeah that's absolutely right the roads are terrible they need to be done my only concern is kind of like the gentleman kept showing that the girls go there it was a nice job about how supporting the pastor in the beginning of the meeting, talk about speeding, that's already a huge issue on Stonely. And my concern is when they have new, freshly paved roads, that is just going to, you know, increase the amount of speeding. My wife and two small children have almost been hit on multiple occasions from cars coming off of Long Lake right on the Stonely. They're hitting 40, 45 miles an hour.

  70. and collaboration with us you know we started this and kind of got locked down in COVID and then we re-initiated it and then we did the waterline so we're on a six seven year journey hopefully by this fall we'll we'll be in so I just wanted to let you know we're very supportive thank you Kevin if there's no further public comment I'll close the public hearing open up for questions or comments from the board one more okay leave it open thanks for your time my name is Alex Grusso I'm at 4043 so only yeah that's absolutely right the roads are terrible they need to be done my only concern is kind of like the gentleman kept showing that the girls go there it was a nice job about how supporting the pastor in the beginning of the meeting, talk about speeding, that's already a huge issue on Stonely. And my concern is when they have new, freshly paved roads, that is just going to, you know, increase the amount of speeding. My wife and two small children have almost been hit on multiple occasions from cars coming off of Long Lake right on the Stonely. They're hitting 40, 45 miles an hour. Within two, three houses. It's pretty ridiculous. So I just wanted to bring up, you know, potentially doing something to mitigate that safety risk, maybe putting in some sort of just like speed humps or something just to, you know, stop, you know, potentially someone getting injured. That's about it. Okay. Thank you, Alex. All right. Thanks for your time. Thank you. Any other public comment before we close the public hearing? Going once, twice, three times. Okay. We'll close public hearing and open up for comments to the board. Any comments or questions? I'd like to make a motion then. Can I just, I'll just say one thing. I just want to remind residents of these two SADs that we have the special assessment deferment program for Folks that income qualify and asset qualify we will defer your assessment until you sell or refinance your home Please contact the treasurer's office if you have any questions that are interested Okay Chris

  71. Within two, three houses. It's pretty ridiculous. So I just wanted to bring up, you know, potentially doing something to mitigate that safety risk, maybe putting in some sort of just like speed humps or something just to, you know, stop, you know, potentially someone getting injured. That's about it. Okay. Thank you, Alex. All right. Thanks for your time. Thank you. Any other public comment before we close the public hearing? Going once, twice, three times. Okay. We'll close public hearing and open up for comments to the board. Any comments or questions? I'd like to make a motion then. Can I just, I'll just say one thing. I just want to remind residents of these two SADs that we have the special assessment deferment program for Folks that income qualify and asset qualify we will defer your assessment until you sell or refinance your home Please contact the treasurer's office if you have any questions that are interested Okay Chris Mark Wanted to ask about the That 1% above bond rate. I thought we reduced that to half a percent The half a percent was the township administrative fee, okay, the 1% is an interest rate that we tack on to the bond and the reason for that is because Anyone can prepay their assessment at any time And so if somebody let's say in the second year of the 15 years decided to pay off their assessment We would no longer be collecting interest on that amount But we'd be paying interest on the bonds because we can't prepay the bonds, okay So we keep that 1% that we collect all the way to the end of the district Once the bonds are fully paid off and all of the expenses are paid We make refunds at that point of whatever is left over so that 1% is technically not money that the township will keep It's money that we hold to make sure that we can pay our bonds go by as they come due To account for any prepayments because sometimes those prepayments that can occur and you know We see that happening over the course of 15 years somebody sells their house. They want to pay it off, etc. So the and the The one to half a percent was on the administrative fee. That's correct. Okay. Thanks. Okay

  72. Mark Wanted to ask about the That 1% above bond rate. I thought we reduced that to half a percent The half a percent was the township administrative fee, okay, the 1% is an interest rate that we tack on to the bond and the reason for that is because Anyone can prepay their assessment at any time And so if somebody let's say in the second year of the 15 years decided to pay off their assessment We would no longer be collecting interest on that amount But we'd be paying interest on the bonds because we can't prepay the bonds, okay So we keep that 1% that we collect all the way to the end of the district Once the bonds are fully paid off and all of the expenses are paid We make refunds at that point of whatever is left over so that 1% is technically not money that the township will keep It's money that we hold to make sure that we can pay our bonds go by as they come due To account for any prepayments because sometimes those prepayments that can occur and you know We see that happening over the course of 15 years somebody sells their house. They want to pay it off, etc. So the and the The one to half a percent was on the administrative fee. That's correct. Okay. Thanks. Okay I'd like to make a motion that we approve the resolution as presented. Support. Okay, motion by Neal, support by Val. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes 7 to nothing. Thank you. Does that also include authorizing the RCRC? Yep. Yes. You had that in your motion? Of course. Thank you. Of course. Thank you, Michael. Number 9, consider approval of the 2026-27 water and sewer rate resolutions presented by Public Works Director Noah Mahalski. Welcome, Noah. Good evening. I'm in front of you this evening to ask for approval of the two resolutions that are in the packet, setting rates for the next fiscal year. Okay. I got no presentation. The resolutions are in the packet, and I'm asking for approval of those resolutions. Okay. Any comments or questions for Noah? I have a question. On page 50 in the audit, it says, this is in the note section, investment income from cash and cash equivalents is assigned to the water and sewer fund based on the average amount invested by this fund during the year.

  73. I'd like to make a motion that we approve the resolution as presented. Support. Okay, motion by Neal, support by Val. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes 7 to nothing. Thank you. Does that also include authorizing the RCRC? Yep. Yes. You had that in your motion? Of course. Thank you. Of course. Thank you, Michael. Number 9, consider approval of the 2026-27 water and sewer rate resolutions presented by Public Works Director Noah Mahalski. Welcome, Noah. Good evening. I'm in front of you this evening to ask for approval of the two resolutions that are in the packet, setting rates for the next fiscal year. Okay. I got no presentation. The resolutions are in the packet, and I'm asking for approval of those resolutions. Okay. Any comments or questions for Noah? I have a question. On page 50 in the audit, it says, this is in the note section, investment income from cash and cash equivalents is assigned to the water and sewer fund based on the average amount invested by this fund during the year. The remainder of the investment income is assigned to the general fund, so did we include any investment income in the rate analysis? I would defer to date? michael on that i don't believe so you're talking the additional yeah because it says and i went back through to 2015 and this statement is in all the audits investment income from cash and cash equivalents is assigned to the water and sewer fund based on the average amount invested by this fund during the year mark you got me at a loss i've never noticed this before um i'm gonna have to talk to jason about it jason is the one that um oversees the audit report um and i went back to every year to 2015. okay we'll get a clarification yeah i'll have to get back to you on that i don't i don't know why it says that or what it's referring to maybe it's referring to something else i don't i don't know yeah you'd have to read prior to that chapter assets liabilities and fund equity cash and cash equivalents and investments okay we'll do some homework on that

  74. On page 50 in the audit, it says, this is in the note section, investment income from cash and cash equivalents is assigned to the water and sewer fund based on the average amount invested by this fund during the year. The remainder of the investment income is assigned to the general fund, so did we include any investment income in the rate analysis? I would defer to date? michael on that i don't believe so you're talking the additional yeah because it says and i went back through to 2015 and this statement is in all the audits investment income from cash and cash equivalents is assigned to the water and sewer fund based on the average amount invested by this fund during the year mark you got me at a loss i've never noticed this before um i'm gonna have to talk to jason about it jason is the one that um oversees the audit report um and i went back to every year to 2015. okay we'll get a clarification yeah i'll have to get back to you on that i don't i don't know why it says that or what it's referring to maybe it's referring to something else i don't i don't know yeah you'd have to read prior to that chapter assets liabilities and fund equity cash and cash equivalents and investments okay we'll do some homework on that get back to you mark well if we're doing something that's inconsistent with what the audit's recommending and that would impact rates i would expect to have lower water and sewer rates so why shouldn't we table this discussion until we get an answer on that i'm not sure that justifies um tabling it but i definitely believe we do should get an answer on that question okay Okay, make a motion that we approve the water rates as presented, and sewer rates. Is there support? Support. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. Okay, passes six to one. Thank you, Noah. Thank you. Thanks, Noah. Item number 10, consider site plan requests for Orphan Associates at 3120 South Boulevard, presented by Director of Planning and Building and Ordinance, Andrea Schenicki. Thank you. Good evening. I'm just going to get my PowerPoint set up here really quick. Okay, good evening, board. So this evening, I have a presentation for a site plan application for an existing building

  75. and fund equity cash and cash equivalents and investments okay we'll do some homework on that get back to you mark well if we're doing something that's inconsistent with what the audit's recommending and that would impact rates i would expect to have lower water and sewer rates so why shouldn't we table this discussion until we get an answer on that i'm not sure that justifies um tabling it but i definitely believe we do should get an answer on that question okay Okay, make a motion that we approve the water rates as presented, and sewer rates. Is there support? Support. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. Okay, passes six to one. Thank you, Noah. Thank you. Thanks, Noah. Item number 10, consider site plan requests for Orphan Associates at 3120 South Boulevard, presented by Director of Planning and Building and Ordinance, Andrea Schenicki. Thank you. Good evening. I'm just going to get my PowerPoint set up here really quick. Okay, good evening, board. So this evening, I have a presentation for a site plan application for an existing building located at 3120 South Boulevard. Here is an area of where it sits within the township. It's actually located very close to the recently developed Noble project. This is at South Boulevard. The proposal, as you can see, this lies within our O-1 office zoning classification, which does comply with the proposed land use in compliance with our master plan that this area is zoned, and the current use does comply with the O-1 zoning classification. So the existing condition is this was a previous bank institution, and recently it's been purchased by a credit union. Therefore, it has eliminated... the need for the existing drive-through operation. So the proposal is to actually add approximately 1,900 square feet to this building at 3,120 to fully enclose it, which will make the building a total of approximately 6,118 square feet. The site in which this building lays on is approximately 1.83 acres. There are no non-conformities or variances that were required as part of this request.

  76. So this evening, I have a presentation for a site plan application for an existing building located at 3120 South Boulevard. Here is an area of where it sits within the township. It's actually located very close to the recently developed Noble project. This is at South Boulevard. The proposal, as you can see, this lies within our O-1 office zoning classification, which does comply with the proposed land use in compliance with our master plan that this area is zoned, and the current use does comply with the O-1 zoning classification. So the existing condition is this was a previous bank institution, and recently it's been purchased by a credit union. Therefore, it has eliminated... the need for the existing drive-through operation. So the proposal is to actually add approximately 1,900 square feet to this building at 3,120 to fully enclose it, which will make the building a total of approximately 6,118 square feet. The site in which this building lays on is approximately 1.83 acres. There are no non-conformities or variances that were required as part of this request. The purpose of the addition is that the credit union has oftentimes, they have members in which they hold meetings and they want more interior meeting space to occur on the site. In addition to the addition, the applicant is adding now six new parking spaces to be located along the south a boulevard frontage in front of the proposed addition. So that's another added benefit to the newly designed addition. In terms of traffic circulation, the interior traffic circulation will remain unchanged. Based on the parking requirement, they do have adequate parking spaces. They are required to have 22, this plan indicates, with the additional 6, 41 parking spaces. It's a relatively modest change to the site. Um- Um, I do want to note that they are adding some foundational vegetation and landscaping to be included as part of the addition. And with that, the site circulation access remains the same. There are no, there is some moderate changes, actually I should clarify, in terms of lighting,

  77. that were required as part of this request. The purpose of the addition is that the credit union has oftentimes, they have members in which they hold meetings and they want more interior meeting space to occur on the site. In addition to the addition, the applicant is adding now six new parking spaces to be located along the south a boulevard frontage in front of the proposed addition. So that's another added benefit to the newly designed addition. In terms of traffic circulation, the interior traffic circulation will remain unchanged. Based on the parking requirement, they do have adequate parking spaces. They are required to have 22, this plan indicates, with the additional 6, 41 parking spaces. It's a relatively modest change to the site. Um- Um, I do want to note that they are adding some foundational vegetation and landscaping to be included as part of the addition. And with that, the site circulation access remains the same. There are no, there is some moderate changes, actually I should clarify, in terms of lighting, any new lighting, which I do not believe the applicant is adding a new lighting on the site. They have provided a photometric study to indicate that lighting on site will not impact adjacent properties. All light shielding is required to be downward shielded as to not be seen or add any negative impact to adjacent properties. Again in terms of landscaping, that was reviewed by our landscape architect, noting that they identify a 380 feet of linear road frontage, which requires the installation of approximately eight trees within the required front yard greenbelt. The plan shows that eight existing trees within the greenbelt will remain, therefore satisfying the requirements. So with that, our various departments did have an opportunity to review this plan. Again, it's very straightforward, indicating that the fire department reviewed the site plan. They have no objections. They noted that the width of the drive aisle around the building must remain in its current width, and that no building overhangs will be permitted to the east of the north side. So, at the end, we are part of the front yard, which is a posting of the side.

  78. There are no, there is some moderate changes, actually I should clarify, in terms of lighting, any new lighting, which I do not believe the applicant is adding a new lighting on the site. They have provided a photometric study to indicate that lighting on site will not impact adjacent properties. All light shielding is required to be downward shielded as to not be seen or add any negative impact to adjacent properties. Again in terms of landscaping, that was reviewed by our landscape architect, noting that they identify a 380 feet of linear road frontage, which requires the installation of approximately eight trees within the required front yard greenbelt. The plan shows that eight existing trees within the greenbelt will remain, therefore satisfying the requirements. So with that, our various departments did have an opportunity to review this plan. Again, it's very straightforward, indicating that the fire department reviewed the site plan. They have no objections. They noted that the width of the drive aisle around the building must remain in its current width, and that no building overhangs will be permitted to the east of the north side. So, at the end, we are part of the front yard, which is a posting of the side. to allow for passage of fire trucks. No issues from the fire department. Engineering and environmental services reviewed the submitted plans and determined that there's no major changes to the existing water and sewer infrastructure. However, due to the increase of the building floor area associated, the property will require one additional REU for the sewer service. Landscape architect, I've reviewed those comments. I also want to note that the elevations, as you can see, the materials that are proposed to the addition match quite well with the existing building and maintain a brick facade, which keeps in the spirit of the design elements within the township. And you can see here, this is a good example of what's existing versus what's proposed. This did go before the planning commission, as well as the design review board forwarding it on to you for consideration of the site plan approval. This evening, the board is being asked to consider under what conditions they would approve the site plan application for the addition to Orphan Associates at 3120 South Boulevard, noting that the conditions would include compliance

  79. to allow for passage of fire trucks. No issues from the fire department. Engineering and environmental services reviewed the submitted plans and determined that there's no major changes to the existing water and sewer infrastructure. However, due to the increase of the building floor area associated, the property will require one additional REU for the sewer service. Landscape architect, I've reviewed those comments. I also want to note that the elevations, as you can see, the materials that are proposed to the addition match quite well with the existing building and maintain a brick facade, which keeps in the spirit of the design elements within the township. And you can see here, this is a good example of what's existing versus what's proposed. This did go before the planning commission, as well as the design review board forwarding it on to you for consideration of the site plan approval. This evening, the board is being asked to consider under what conditions they would approve the site plan application for the addition to Orphan Associates at 3120 South Boulevard, noting that the conditions would include compliance with the requirements of the township departments, compliance with the requirements of the township's landscape architect, and if there is any additional or future signage that would be asked of this property, just noting that this would be required to go before the design review board. or the design review board. With that, I'm happy to answer any questions regarding this application. So I just have a question for clarification, because when I read the packet, it seemed like it went from a bank to a credit union. Is ORPHIN a credit union, or I thought they were like a financial investment group? I guess I'm confused. Is this going to be a credit union? Because a credit union might still want to keep the drive- You know what, I actually apologize. You're right. I misspoke. They are a financial advising institution. Okay. I apologize. I get the financial institutions screwed up. So yes, you are absolutely correct. And you know, I kept going through the packet, because I get it all at once. Correct. And I'm reading 400 pages of the packet, and I'm going, I think I understand, because I'm familiar with ORPHIN, and I was sure that they were a- It's financial advisory. Financial, which is why they're getting rid of the- Correct. The drive-thru. Thank you for that mail. No, I just wanted to make sure I understood, because- Sure. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Any other questions for- No. Nice use of the building, and nice landscaping. Fits in well.

  80. noting that the conditions would include compliance with the requirements of the township departments, compliance with the requirements of the township's landscape architect, and if there is any additional or future signage that would be asked of this property, just noting that this would be required to go before the design review board. or the design review board. With that, I'm happy to answer any questions regarding this application. So I just have a question for clarification, because when I read the packet, it seemed like it went from a bank to a credit union. Is ORPHIN a credit union, or I thought they were like a financial investment group? I guess I'm confused. Is this going to be a credit union? Because a credit union might still want to keep the drive- You know what, I actually apologize. You're right. I misspoke. They are a financial advising institution. Okay. I apologize. I get the financial institutions screwed up. So yes, you are absolutely correct. And you know, I kept going through the packet, because I get it all at once. Correct. And I'm reading 400 pages of the packet, and I'm going, I think I understand, because I'm familiar with ORPHIN, and I was sure that they were a- It's financial advisory. Financial, which is why they're getting rid of the- Correct. The drive-thru. Thank you for that mail. No, I just wanted to make sure I understood, because- Sure. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Any other questions for- No. Nice use of the building, and nice landscaping. Fits in well. I'd like to make a motion. We approve as presented. Support. Okay. Proposed by Neal. Support by Chris. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes seven to nothing. Thank you, Ms. Shinicki. All right. Item number 11. We'll have a public hearing on consider approval of lot split and amended site plan request for Lowe's at 1801 South Telegraph Road, and consider a site plan and special land use for Culver's. . Welcome to Butter Burgers. to Bloomfield Township at 1801 South Telegraph Road, presented by Director of Planning and Building Ordinance, Ms. Andrea Schinecki. Three times the term. Okay, thank you very much. This is the final stop for this proposal. The Township Board did set a public hearing to be held this evening that was specific to the lot split that's associated with this proposal. I think we're familiar with the aerial that we have on our screen. That is our current Lowe's located at 801 South Telegraph Road. So we're talking on the east side of Telegraph, north of Square Lake. We received an application on behalf of Zimmer Development Corporation seeking to construct a new 4,060-square-foot Culver's

  81. Fits in well. I'd like to make a motion. We approve as presented. Support. Okay. Proposed by Neal. Support by Chris. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes seven to nothing. Thank you, Ms. Shinicki. All right. Item number 11. We'll have a public hearing on consider approval of lot split and amended site plan request for Lowe's at 1801 South Telegraph Road, and consider a site plan and special land use for Culver's. . Welcome to Butter Burgers. to Bloomfield Township at 1801 South Telegraph Road, presented by Director of Planning and Building Ordinance, Ms. Andrea Schinecki. Three times the term. Okay, thank you very much. This is the final stop for this proposal. The Township Board did set a public hearing to be held this evening that was specific to the lot split that's associated with this proposal. I think we're familiar with the aerial that we have on our screen. That is our current Lowe's located at 801 South Telegraph Road. So we're talking on the east side of Telegraph, north of Square Lake. We received an application on behalf of Zimmer Development Corporation seeking to construct a new 4,060-square-foot Culver's fast food operation with a drive-through window. So the site itself, as you can see highlighted on your screen, it's zoned. The Lowe's property is actually split zoned. The rear of it is the light is the gray color, represents the ML Light Manufacturing District. And the portion that we're referring to specifically is closer to Telegraph Road that falls within that B3 general business classification. That is where the proposed Culver is to be located. I did create a screen. This is a general layout of I kind of tried to highlight the portion that is going to be specific. for the Culver's, this is the portion that is seeking the request to be split from the remainder of the Lowe's shopping center, thus leaving a 1.26 acre parcel for Culver's. So that's the location of the proposed Culver's. So now I'm going to go back to the site plan, which actually shows how that yellow area is actually going to hold the Culver's development.

  82. seeking to construct a new 4,060-square-foot Culver's fast food operation with a drive-through window. So the site itself, as you can see highlighted on your screen, it's zoned. The Lowe's property is actually split zoned. The rear of it is the light is the gray color, represents the ML Light Manufacturing District. And the portion that we're referring to specifically is closer to Telegraph Road that falls within that B3 general business classification. That is where the proposed Culver is to be located. I did create a screen. This is a general layout of I kind of tried to highlight the portion that is going to be specific. for the Culver's, this is the portion that is seeking the request to be split from the remainder of the Lowe's shopping center, thus leaving a 1.26 acre parcel for Culver's. So that's the location of the proposed Culver's. So now I'm going to go back to the site plan, which actually shows how that yellow area is actually going to hold the Culver's development. Bless you. Okay. So here you can see the layout for the proposed Culver's. The orientation, so if we're looking towards the bottom right-hand corner of your screen, that is a telegraph road. So the orientation of the building is facing telegraph road with the entrance, walk-in entrance, is actually going to be facing towards the top of your screen, which would be facing the parking lot at Lowe's. And then the drive-through operation then circles around that side of the building, then coming down further to the bottom of the screen, and then exiting out towards the heading south, southerly, if you will, towards the top where it says site plan. So if you can understand the layout, the drive-through. actually be on the right-hand side of your left-hand side of your screen circling the traffic for the queuing and drive-through would come around the building to the back and then enter back up onto Telegraph that way. I do want to note that incorporated with this drive-through operation we do have a

  83. So now I'm going to go back to the site plan, which actually shows how that yellow area is actually going to hold the Culver's development. Bless you. Okay. So here you can see the layout for the proposed Culver's. The orientation, so if we're looking towards the bottom right-hand corner of your screen, that is a telegraph road. So the orientation of the building is facing telegraph road with the entrance, walk-in entrance, is actually going to be facing towards the top of your screen, which would be facing the parking lot at Lowe's. And then the drive-through operation then circles around that side of the building, then coming down further to the bottom of the screen, and then exiting out towards the heading south, southerly, if you will, towards the top where it says site plan. So if you can understand the layout, the drive-through. actually be on the right-hand side of your left-hand side of your screen circling the traffic for the queuing and drive-through would come around the building to the back and then enter back up onto Telegraph that way. I do want to note that incorporated with this drive-through operation we do have a bypass lane which is required anytime we have a drive-through operation within the township. We want to ensure that anybody who may be queued within that drive-through has the ability to exit this site. In addition on the site the applicant is proposing a enclosure for a dumpster located also in the rear of the building. Within that dumpster the enclosure they did seek and were granted a permission request from the design review board because they have a they actually install a shed on these sites to store some of their materials and that shed was a given approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals. In terms of the layout itself there were no required variances as it pertains to the site plan. I do want to note that the applicant did go before the ZB the Zoning Board of Appeals at their April meeting in which they were granted approval for three a total of three wall signs and one ground sign. There was a sign that was proposed in the rear of the building that was essentially facing Rose Boulevard. That sign was determined.

  84. note that incorporated with this drive-through operation we do have a bypass lane which is required anytime we have a drive-through operation within the township. We want to ensure that anybody who may be queued within that drive-through has the ability to exit this site. In addition on the site the applicant is proposing a enclosure for a dumpster located also in the rear of the building. Within that dumpster the enclosure they did seek and were granted a permission request from the design review board because they have a they actually install a shed on these sites to store some of their materials and that shed was a given approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals. In terms of the layout itself there were no required variances as it pertains to the site plan. I do want to note that the applicant did go before the ZB the Zoning Board of Appeals at their April meeting in which they were granted approval for three a total of three wall signs and one ground sign. There was a sign that was proposed in the rear of the building that was essentially facing Rose Boulevard. That sign was determined. by the Zoning Board of Appeals not to be necessary, so that was not given approval, as well as the language on the building noting a butter burger and frozen custard that also was denied by the Zoning Board of Appeals. When you were looking at their elevations here, again, kind of referring back to those elevations that I was referring to on the site plan, so the upper left-hand corner, that would represent essentially the rear of the building. That would be facing sort of towards the Lowe's building, and then the drive-through operation that would come around and circle the rear of the building, noting, and then the bottom, the top right elevation represents the area that would technically be facing the parking lot, as well, and also the picture on the right-hand side represents what the view to Telegraph Road would be, and then the bottom picture represents the entrance point in which if a patron was parking in that front parking lot area, that is where they would enter, and then to the right of that, you can see the dumpster enclosure,

  85. by the Zoning Board of Appeals not to be necessary, so that was not given approval, as well as the language on the building noting a butter burger and frozen custard that also was denied by the Zoning Board of Appeals. When you were looking at their elevations here, again, kind of referring back to those elevations that I was referring to on the site plan, so the upper left-hand corner, that would represent essentially the rear of the building. That would be facing sort of towards the Lowe's building, and then the drive-through operation that would come around and circle the rear of the building, noting, and then the bottom, the top right elevation represents the area that would technically be facing the parking lot, as well, and also the picture on the right-hand side represents what the view to Telegraph Road would be, and then the bottom picture represents the entrance point in which if a patron was parking in that front parking lot area, that is where they would enter, and then to the right of that, you can see the dumpster enclosure, as well as you can kind of see the top of that shed that was approved. The materials and the coloration of that shed are to be consistent with the building itself, and I also want to note that on the right-hand side of that brick, there's a description that we can do when they were, wall, if you're looking at elevation, there will be a hedge of evergreen plantings that was included in the landscape plan to kind of help soften the view of that enclosure as you're coming around to the drive-through. I just want to note, too, that the applicant has provided a more subdued coloration, if you will, adding more of a neutral type of awning as opposed to the traditional blue awnings. And I just want to note that they do are proposing an outdoor seating area. And you'll see within your conditions that one of the considerations would be that they add a railing for safety to secure their outdoor seating area. So that is included as part of your recommendation. Here is the interior floor plan of the site. And then here is the rather intense, it's a very good, robust landscape plan to really help soften all areas of this

  86. you can see the dumpster enclosure, as well as you can kind of see the top of that shed that was approved. The materials and the coloration of that shed are to be consistent with the building itself, and I also want to note that on the right-hand side of that brick, there's a description that we can do when they were, wall, if you're looking at elevation, there will be a hedge of evergreen plantings that was included in the landscape plan to kind of help soften the view of that enclosure as you're coming around to the drive-through. I just want to note, too, that the applicant has provided a more subdued coloration, if you will, adding more of a neutral type of awning as opposed to the traditional blue awnings. And I just want to note that they do are proposing an outdoor seating area. And you'll see within your conditions that one of the considerations would be that they add a railing for safety to secure their outdoor seating area. So that is included as part of your recommendation. Here is the interior floor plan of the site. And then here is the rather intense, it's a very good, robust landscape plan to really help soften all areas of this development and to provide some green in an area that currently is the parking lot of Lowe's. I do want to note that the applicant is actually not doing a shared parking analysis. They did have a parking study that was completed and reviewed by our traffic engineer at Fishbeck, noting that the parking that is provided on-site, as well as the queuing for, I believe it's up to 12. I think it was 14. 14. That's what I'm remembering, but I'm not sure. We're getting a nod to the audience. Thank you. 14. Thank you. So I just want to note that based on this request and the lot split consideration, that there would be no, we would have to, we're also asking the board this evening to consider the amended site plan for Lowe's any time you are changing the legal description in the land area of a site. We also have to look at the site plan related to that Lowe's and make sure that this proposal is not creating any non-conformities. In this instance, we do not have any non-conformities.

  87. rather intense, it's a very good, robust landscape plan to really help soften all areas of this development and to provide some green in an area that currently is the parking lot of Lowe's. I do want to note that the applicant is actually not doing a shared parking analysis. They did have a parking study that was completed and reviewed by our traffic engineer at Fishbeck, noting that the parking that is provided on-site, as well as the queuing for, I believe it's up to 12. I think it was 14. 14. That's what I'm remembering, but I'm not sure. We're getting a nod to the audience. Thank you. 14. Thank you. So I just want to note that based on this request and the lot split consideration, that there would be no, we would have to, we're also asking the board this evening to consider the amended site plan for Lowe's any time you are changing the legal description in the land area of a site. We also have to look at the site plan related to that Lowe's and make sure that this proposal is not creating any non-conformities. In this instance, we do not have any non-conformities. So this evening, I can answer any questions. Clearly we have representation here from Culver's as well as the applicant and developer himself is in the audience. We can answer any questions. Okay. That's good, Andrea. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. And if there, we'll open it up for a public hearing and if there's anybody here to comment on the Lowe's and the lot split or the approval of the land use for Culver's, now's your time to come up to the microphone. Okay. It looks like we'll close the public hearing and open up for questions on the board. I don't have a question. I just want to say welcome to Bloomfield. We love Culver's and my husband and I like search it when we drive to go see our son or Culver's and my husband. if we're over in royal oak um there's one in madison heights we know right where it is next to home depot because of our son living over there we were fans and when i heard this was coming to bloomfield i know that area very well huge parking lot lowe's parking lot is never crowded so i'm not worried about any of that um we're we're just well let's get dale's order going yeah i mean i'm gonna be like in the first line any other questions hours of operation get your

  88. In this instance, we do not have any non-conformities. So this evening, I can answer any questions. Clearly we have representation here from Culver's as well as the applicant and developer himself is in the audience. We can answer any questions. Okay. That's good, Andrea. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. And if there, we'll open it up for a public hearing and if there's anybody here to comment on the Lowe's and the lot split or the approval of the land use for Culver's, now's your time to come up to the microphone. Okay. It looks like we'll close the public hearing and open up for questions on the board. I don't have a question. I just want to say welcome to Bloomfield. We love Culver's and my husband and I like search it when we drive to go see our son or Culver's and my husband. if we're over in royal oak um there's one in madison heights we know right where it is next to home depot because of our son living over there we were fans and when i heard this was coming to bloomfield i know that area very well huge parking lot lowe's parking lot is never crowded so i'm not worried about any of that um we're we're just well let's get dale's order going yeah i mean i'm gonna be like in the first line any other questions hours of operation get your motion um can the applicant if you wouldn't mind speaking specifically to that if you'd come up here and speak to that joe thank you good evening good evening i know it's between 7 a.m and 9 p.m or else would be a special land use so the hours okay well the hours are very consistent with the but introduce yourself oh yeah uh joe's never i'm the proud owner of culver's and i am prematurely excited about being here i'll let you know in a few minutes but uh the hours are uh during the during the uh the winter hours which we call that now uh usually from um the fall till um uh summer is 10 to 10 10 10 a.m to 10 p.m and then um uh for the exclusion of uh uh during the weekends we We're open until 11. That's on Friday and Saturday. That's 24 hours. And then normally after Memorial weekend, until Labor Day, we're open until 11 o'clock, seven days a week. So 10 to 11, basically, Joe?

  89. yeah i mean i'm gonna be like in the first line any other questions hours of operation get your motion um can the applicant if you wouldn't mind speaking specifically to that if you'd come up here and speak to that joe thank you good evening good evening i know it's between 7 a.m and 9 p.m or else would be a special land use so the hours okay well the hours are very consistent with the but introduce yourself oh yeah uh joe's never i'm the proud owner of culver's and i am prematurely excited about being here i'll let you know in a few minutes but uh the hours are uh during the during the uh the winter hours which we call that now uh usually from um the fall till um uh summer is 10 to 10 10 10 a.m to 10 p.m and then um uh for the exclusion of uh uh during the weekends we We're open until 11. That's on Friday and Saturday. That's 24 hours. And then normally after Memorial weekend, until Labor Day, we're open until 11 o'clock, seven days a week. So 10 to 11, basically, Joe? 10, yeah. 10 to 11? Well, I'm a little nervous. I usually don't speak, you know. Do you serve breakfast? Pardon me? Do you serve breakfast? No serving breakfast. No breakfast? No, we're going to leave that to somebody else. We want to do what we do best, and that's serve butter, burgers, and lunch, hour, dinner. Yep, custard. Thank you very much. Any other questions I'd be happy to try to answer? And Joe, this is your third Culver's, is that right? That is correct, yes. And I've been to your other Culver's up in Lake Orion, and they're wonderful. Thank you, and we appreciate that very much. If there's no more questions, I would love to make the motion to approve as presented, and obviously with meeting all the fire and police. Yes, specifications, and we've got support over here. Okay, the motion by Val, supported by Neal. With all the considerations listed. With all the considerations listed. Okay, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Great, welcome. In closing, I'd just like to say I'm happy to have my family. That's wonderful. That's great. Thank you. Yeah, that's sweet, Joe. Welcome to Floating Field. And don't forget to invite us to the ribbon cutting, please. Yes, please, ribbon cutting. Join the chamber and invite us. I'll even bring you some cupboards. Yeah, you're always generous with that, Joe. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

  90. So 10 to 11, basically, Joe? 10, yeah. 10 to 11? Well, I'm a little nervous. I usually don't speak, you know. Do you serve breakfast? Pardon me? Do you serve breakfast? No serving breakfast. No breakfast? No, we're going to leave that to somebody else. We want to do what we do best, and that's serve butter, burgers, and lunch, hour, dinner. Yep, custard. Thank you very much. Any other questions I'd be happy to try to answer? And Joe, this is your third Culver's, is that right? That is correct, yes. And I've been to your other Culver's up in Lake Orion, and they're wonderful. Thank you, and we appreciate that very much. If there's no more questions, I would love to make the motion to approve as presented, and obviously with meeting all the fire and police. Yes, specifications, and we've got support over here. Okay, the motion by Val, supported by Neal. With all the considerations listed. With all the considerations listed. Okay, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Great, welcome. In closing, I'd just like to say I'm happy to have my family. That's wonderful. That's great. Thank you. Yeah, that's sweet, Joe. Welcome to Floating Field. And don't forget to invite us to the ribbon cutting, please. Yes, please, ribbon cutting. Join the chamber and invite us. I'll even bring you some cupboards. Yeah, you're always generous with that, Joe. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Cheese curds. Cheese curds. Cheese curds. Good luck. Good luck. Thank you. We've got to get moving here. I want those cheese curds. I want the ice cream. Okay. Item number 12. Consider resolution declaring official intent to reimburse project expenditures for SAD number 430 with bond proceeds presented by our treasurer, Michael Shostad. Oh, it's me again. Okay. So in light of the fact that we approved SADs 430 and 431 and the intention is that we will bond for the cost of the project less any prepayments, I need a resolution that declares the official intent that we will reimburse ourselves because we're going to have to front some costs until we sell the bonds. And so we will be able to reimburse ourselves for out of the bond proceeds for any costs that we incur prior to the bonding. This is a standard resolution that we do every time and it needs to be said that it's 430 and 431. Okay. Any questions for Michael? I can make a motion that we approve as presented for SAD 430 and 431.

  91. Cheese curds. Cheese curds. Cheese curds. Good luck. Good luck. Thank you. We've got to get moving here. I want those cheese curds. I want the ice cream. Okay. Item number 12. Consider resolution declaring official intent to reimburse project expenditures for SAD number 430 with bond proceeds presented by our treasurer, Michael Shostad. Oh, it's me again. Okay. So in light of the fact that we approved SADs 430 and 431 and the intention is that we will bond for the cost of the project less any prepayments, I need a resolution that declares the official intent that we will reimburse ourselves because we're going to have to front some costs until we sell the bonds. And so we will be able to reimburse ourselves for out of the bond proceeds for any costs that we incur prior to the bonding. This is a standard resolution that we do every time and it needs to be said that it's 430 and 431. Okay. Any questions for Michael? I can make a motion that we approve as presented for SAD 430 and 431. Second. Support. Motion by Chris. Support by Val. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes. Okay. Okay. Let's go back to item number 12A and 12B which will... do approve payroll and vouchers from April 27, 2026. Mark? My standing no vote is still there. Okay, so we have a motion. I make a motion to approve the payroll and vouchers. Val makes a motion and Neal supports. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nay. Passes six to one. Item number 12B, which is D, Approved Treasurer's Quarterly Financial Report. Mark? It's directly related to page 50 of the audit and the it's the end of the period. I'd like to know how much cash was invested by water and sewer and what was the return on water and sewer per the audit statement on page 50 from last year. Okay, so we owe you an explanation on that. So we'll take a motion. So moved. It needs to be to accept the report, not approve. To accept the report? Yep. Support. Well, I made the motion. Support. Neal? Support. Chris is support. Neal? Made the motion. Chris is support. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed?

  92. I can make a motion that we approve as presented for SAD 430 and 431. Second. Support. Motion by Chris. Support by Val. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes. Okay. Okay. Let's go back to item number 12A and 12B which will... do approve payroll and vouchers from April 27, 2026. Mark? My standing no vote is still there. Okay, so we have a motion. I make a motion to approve the payroll and vouchers. Val makes a motion and Neal supports. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nay. Passes six to one. Item number 12B, which is D, Approved Treasurer's Quarterly Financial Report. Mark? It's directly related to page 50 of the audit and the it's the end of the period. I'd like to know how much cash was invested by water and sewer and what was the return on water and sewer per the audit statement on page 50 from last year. Okay, so we owe you an explanation on that. So we'll take a motion. So moved. It needs to be to accept the report, not approve. To accept the report? Yep. Support. Well, I made the motion. Support. Neal? Support. Chris is support. Neal? Made the motion. Chris is support. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nay. Six to one. And then move to item number 13. Motion to adjourn. All in favor say aye. Aye. We are adjourned. Thank you, everyone.