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Board Of Trustees Wednesday, October 22, 2025 · 49 min

Bloomfield Township Public Library Board of Trustees Meeting on October 21, 2025

Summary

The city council discussed various topics including library changes, staff development, and budget increases for the design development phase of the library project.

  • The library is experiencing delays in ebook availability due to supply chain issues.
  • Baker and Taylor, a primary book vendor, is closing down and libraries are looking for alternative suppliers.
  • The project's design development schedule and budget are being revised due to increased stakeholder engagement and coordination efforts.
  • Council members discussed potential budget increase and scope creep in a city project.
  • The city council approved awarding the community room AV upgrade bid to CTI.

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  1. Let's call the meeting to order. As always, anyone have a request to remove anything from the consent agenda? No, not I. Motion to approve the order of items and the regular and consent agendas? Moved. Second. All in favor? Aye. My reports, such as it is, I love my favorite materials and I just need to say, as I already told Tara, the materials that we get as a board of art, fantastic. If you look at them, you can't find one typo or one thing out of place, so thank you to everybody who is working on those, and I know it's a team effort. Also, this event here, I don't know if you all had a chance to walk around, the staff, the enthusiasm from the staff was wonderful, including a woman who gave me a raised eyebrow when I took a second piece of candy. Were you like, don't you know why? I didn't know why. Believe me, it was on the tip of my tongue when I was circling for parking. Catherine and Laura were out in the parking lot in the rain, being kind to people and directing. It was very nice. Two other things I would notice in the materials we had, I don't know if you guys noticed, the download of e-books has doubled from 19,000 to 47,000, which is just fantastic. And interestingly, all these, like, um, we had all of these, like, notify me's if they become available, and a lot has suddenly become available in just the last couple of weeks. Hmm. I – I – Mmm. So – when i was wondering if maybe that could be yeah like little things more yeah so yeah maybe that's to do that's why there's there's so many more downloads more availability and the only other thing i would add is that i saw that we got 70 downloads on bitnet again for our for rfp i know it didn't 70 bids but 70 downloads just shows what an amazing tool that is really so much more exposure yeah all right um well uh first thing i want to share with everybody is that baker and taylor in case you haven't heard baker and taylor which is a long time a library book vendor um you see that we write them big checks every month they are no longer in business really yeah um i know that's that's the proper reaction um starting in the pandemic they were having a lot of trouble fulfilling orders and then things got a little bit better and then they had it's been really bad um there were rumors or there was a report that a company called reader link was going to purchase

  2. which is just fantastic. And interestingly, all these, like, um, we had all of these, like, notify me's if they become available, and a lot has suddenly become available in just the last couple of weeks. Hmm. I – I – Mmm. So – when i was wondering if maybe that could be yeah like little things more yeah so yeah maybe that's to do that's why there's there's so many more downloads more availability and the only other thing i would add is that i saw that we got 70 downloads on bitnet again for our for rfp i know it didn't 70 bids but 70 downloads just shows what an amazing tool that is really so much more exposure yeah all right um well uh first thing i want to share with everybody is that baker and taylor in case you haven't heard baker and taylor which is a long time a library book vendor um you see that we write them big checks every month they are no longer in business really yeah um i know that's that's the proper reaction um starting in the pandemic they were having a lot of trouble fulfilling orders and then things got a little bit better and then they had it's been really bad um there were rumors or there was a report that a company called reader link was going to purchase them that negotiation fell apart within a day or so and then um the librarians were all over reddit um looking for information on this and there were several baker and taylor employees reporting that they had been fired so we knew that they were going to close but they just put out their formal announcement i think that was it last week it was yeah so they plan to wind down their business ending in January so this has been a big a big ripple in the library world because they are the primary book vendor for everybody most everybody and they offer a lot of services that other book vendors don't and the big ones are physical book processing and yeah and then their online portal is just superior to other vendors so Ingram is kind of the next best thing and of course they are standing by and ready to take us on as customers we've been contacted by Barnes & Noble Amazon is right there to take our business as well so it's just a big shift a lot of work we need to order more

  3. um there were rumors or there was a report that a company called reader link was going to purchase them that negotiation fell apart within a day or so and then um the librarians were all over reddit um looking for information on this and there were several baker and taylor employees reporting that they had been fired so we knew that they were going to close but they just put out their formal announcement i think that was it last week it was yeah so they plan to wind down their business ending in January so this has been a big a big ripple in the library world because they are the primary book vendor for everybody most everybody and they offer a lot of services that other book vendors don't and the big ones are physical book processing and yeah and then their online portal is just superior to other vendors so Ingram is kind of the next best thing and of course they are standing by and ready to take us on as customers we've been contacted by Barnes & Noble Amazon is right there to take our business as well so it's just a big shift a lot of work we need to order more spine labels because now we're gonna have to visit the process more books and we will see what Ingram does but that's a big thing that's been happening we don't pay ahead of time we pay when an order comes in it so we aren't okay but there are some libraries that did I know I know that's what I was sure it's it's a really yeah that's too bad well hopefully if somebody does step in they'll at least maybe honor those orders from those libraries I know they won't but I'm always hopeful that'd be nice it's a profit losing business I gather I don't know if it's that or mismanagement it sounds like it was nice man yeah they've just been a business for so long so long I think they took their eye off the ball maybe didn't keep up at the times well and this has been going on for years really probably at least two years that they well known that they've been looking for somebody to partner with them and I think it's indicative given that that deal fell through and then the next day they fell apart yeah that's too bad so you might have longer times

  4. our business as well so it's just a big shift a lot of work we need to order more spine labels because now we're gonna have to visit the process more books and we will see what Ingram does but that's a big thing that's been happening we don't pay ahead of time we pay when an order comes in it so we aren't okay but there are some libraries that did I know I know that's what I was sure it's it's a really yeah that's too bad well hopefully if somebody does step in they'll at least maybe honor those orders from those libraries I know they won't but I'm always hopeful that'd be nice it's a profit losing business I gather I don't know if it's that or mismanagement it sounds like it was nice man yeah they've just been a business for so long so long I think they took their eye off the ball maybe didn't keep up at the times well and this has been going on for years really probably at least two years that they well known that they've been looking for somebody to partner with them and I think it's indicative given that that deal fell through and then the next day they fell apart yeah that's too bad so you might have longer times longer wait times for especially popular materials because we're just scrambling to try to get orders in but now the ebooks will really go up yeah yeah so that's just something we're dealing with but we're handling it just a reminder that staff development day is coming up on November 11th we are closed that day this is this is the first year we're doing this on November 11th we've always done it the first Friday in May for at least 10 years so November 11th Tuesday we are closed for staff development day will be closed all day long and I'm so grateful to you all for supporting that because it's really hard in a business that's open seven days a week until 9 p.m. four days of those week four days of those seven to get everyone together to learn and be together as a team so thank you for your support of that we have a day we have a day planned we're going to spend the morning talking about the library design project Chloe and Jenna will be here with us and they're going to walk through the plans as they are right now and then we're gonna have a discussion about change management and what the changes are going to mean for folks work and just trying to support people through this because even when change is good

  5. fell through and then the next day they fell apart yeah that's too bad so you might have longer times longer wait times for especially popular materials because we're just scrambling to try to get orders in but now the ebooks will really go up yeah yeah so that's just something we're dealing with but we're handling it just a reminder that staff development day is coming up on November 11th we are closed that day this is this is the first year we're doing this on November 11th we've always done it the first Friday in May for at least 10 years so November 11th Tuesday we are closed for staff development day will be closed all day long and I'm so grateful to you all for supporting that because it's really hard in a business that's open seven days a week until 9 p.m. four days of those week four days of those seven to get everyone together to learn and be together as a team so thank you for your support of that we have a day we have a day planned we're going to spend the morning talking about the library design project Chloe and Jenna will be here with us and they're going to walk through the plans as they are right now and then we're gonna have a discussion about change management and what the changes are going to mean for folks work and just trying to support people through this because even when change is good change is still hard for everybody and then we're using the afternoon to have some department meetings and then we're gonna spend some time cleaning both our physical spaces and our digital spaces a lot of file cleanup that we can do both paper and electronic so I have a note here don't forget that the November 18th board meeting will start at 630 number one how many more do you get well it is in the agenda for the next scheduled meeting 630 there's a sheet of paper or you know a document in the board packet with all the subsequent meeting start times highlighted so 6 30. do you have any texts do you guys have like six yeah all right and then I have an update on the library design project this is a really new development so you joy is unaware of this so the library design project is moving right along I mean we are we had a great furniture fair the last couple weeks we got a ton of feedback from that and Jenna and Chloe have been synthesizing all that feedback the coffee chat

  6. just trying to support people through this because even when change is good change is still hard for everybody and then we're using the afternoon to have some department meetings and then we're gonna spend some time cleaning both our physical spaces and our digital spaces a lot of file cleanup that we can do both paper and electronic so I have a note here don't forget that the November 18th board meeting will start at 630 number one how many more do you get well it is in the agenda for the next scheduled meeting 630 there's a sheet of paper or you know a document in the board packet with all the subsequent meeting start times highlighted so 6 30. do you have any texts do you guys have like six yeah all right and then I have an update on the library design project this is a really new development so you joy is unaware of this so the library design project is moving right along I mean we are we had a great furniture fair the last couple weeks we got a ton of feedback from that and Jenna and Chloe have been synthesizing all that feedback the coffee chat were good we didn't have a ton of people at them but the people that were here were highly engaged you know we haven't heard any complaints or negative feedback on this the staff were highly engaged at the coffee chat so everything has been going really well um but because of all this extra engagement and then trying to close the feedback loops like we've put all these opportunities for engagement out there now we feel we need to kind of follow up on all of that and to get the design in a place where i can present it to you all and have you all review it and sign off on it i think we need a little bit more time and so i've been talking to jenna and chloe about that and then i spoke with jared secor he's the project manager of the of the project and because of all this extra engagement you know we've already pushed the we pushed the schematic design portion of the um the project out a little bit uh and now we're in the design development which was originally supposed to last two to three months now it's looking like it might last five to six months again to close all these feedback loops um and jared told me today that that's going to cost

  7. were good we didn't have a ton of people at them but the people that were here were highly engaged you know we haven't heard any complaints or negative feedback on this the staff were highly engaged at the coffee chat so everything has been going really well um but because of all this extra engagement and then trying to close the feedback loops like we've put all these opportunities for engagement out there now we feel we need to kind of follow up on all of that and to get the design in a place where i can present it to you all and have you all review it and sign off on it i think we need a little bit more time and so i've been talking to jenna and chloe about that and then i spoke with jared secor he's the project manager of the of the project and because of all this extra engagement you know we've already pushed the we pushed the schematic design portion of the um the project out a little bit uh and now we're in the design development which was originally supposed to last two to three months now it's looking like it might last five to six months again to close all these feedback loops um and jared told me today that that's going to cost money because the designers are spending all this time having to design and then do the engagement um his uh estimate was a hundred thousand dollars and that's for the design portion so if you remember that you RFP that we approved almost a year ago was for $431,000, so that would be another $100,000 on top of that. And who's Jared again? Is he the... Jared's the project manager. No, he's a project manager. I don't think I've heard him. Yeah. I think he was at a couple of things. Was he? Okay. He might have been at that one that he was doing. But here is a memo from Jared. It's a little bit hard to discern because there's a lot of abbreviations here, so I think I can walk you through this. So we're in design development phase. DD is design development. And so he's saying that we've added a scope. CM is construction manager. And so we talked about that at the building and grounds committee meeting, how now they are doing the CM selection process. So that's added into the scope of design development. Even though that was always part of the project, it was not part of this part.

  8. six months again to close all these feedback loops um and jared told me today that that's going to cost money because the designers are spending all this time having to design and then do the engagement um his uh estimate was a hundred thousand dollars and that's for the design portion so if you remember that you RFP that we approved almost a year ago was for $431,000, so that would be another $100,000 on top of that. And who's Jared again? Is he the... Jared's the project manager. No, he's a project manager. I don't think I've heard him. Yeah. I think he was at a couple of things. Was he? Okay. He might have been at that one that he was doing. But here is a memo from Jared. It's a little bit hard to discern because there's a lot of abbreviations here, so I think I can walk you through this. So we're in design development phase. DD is design development. And so he's saying that we've added a scope. CM is construction manager. And so we talked about that at the building and grounds committee meeting, how now they are doing the CM selection process. So that's added into the scope of design development. Even though that was always part of the project, it was not part of this part. The increased stakeholder engagement, as I just talked about, a lot of coordination efforts have been extended to that. And then the duration of the stakeholder engagement efforts. JTD stands for job to date. I didn't know that, so as you're reading through this and you see it. Okay. Yeah. Then item B added design development schedule. So the original schedule and the original contract was two to three months. So let's try and just get it, we see. So let's try and get it. and then that got revised to four to five months and then as i said we i don't feel like it's ready for everybody to review and sign off on now so i asked for a little bit more time so now it's pushing out to six months and then here he gives us the design development budget status the original budget for this portion of the project was 91 000 and that includes the subcontractor fee for jenna because she is not part of c2ae um so far today they have billed us 45 500 which is about half and then there's an anticipated billing left of 68 250. um you know i didn't add up those two

  9. Even though that was always part of the project, it was not part of this part. The increased stakeholder engagement, as I just talked about, a lot of coordination efforts have been extended to that. And then the duration of the stakeholder engagement efforts. JTD stands for job to date. I didn't know that, so as you're reading through this and you see it. Okay. Yeah. Then item B added design development schedule. So the original schedule and the original contract was two to three months. So let's try and just get it, we see. So let's try and get it. and then that got revised to four to five months and then as i said we i don't feel like it's ready for everybody to review and sign off on now so i asked for a little bit more time so now it's pushing out to six months and then here he gives us the design development budget status the original budget for this portion of the project was 91 000 and that includes the subcontractor fee for jenna because she is not part of c2ae um so far today they have billed us 45 500 which is about half and then there's an anticipated billing left of 68 250. um you know i didn't add up those two things to see if that doesn't equal 167. no but this looks like the 68 brings it up to 75 percent yes and then they're proposing this amendment of adding 100 000 to design development for c2ae and then he said he wasn't sure how jenna will be impacted but he'll figure that out so with this um increased time frame when we get our next deliverables um to show people is it going to be really extensive like the furniture will have been selected at that time will the answers that we've had about you like what's the difference between the hundred thousand that's a million dollars i guess that is the tricky part that and they're saying at this point no they won't really have anything super concrete okay to share with us okay i mean they will be able to give us floor plans and they'll be able to show us finishes um yeah i don't feel like this is a reflection of that i think that process is still gonna okay time what i think this is if you're reading the tea leaves is that they have extended and we've

  10. half and then there's an anticipated billing left of 68 250. um you know i didn't add up those two things to see if that doesn't equal 167. no but this looks like the 68 brings it up to 75 percent yes and then they're proposing this amendment of adding 100 000 to design development for c2ae and then he said he wasn't sure how jenna will be impacted but he'll figure that out so with this um increased time frame when we get our next deliverables um to show people is it going to be really extensive like the furniture will have been selected at that time will the answers that we've had about you like what's the difference between the hundred thousand that's a million dollars i guess that is the tricky part that and they're saying at this point no they won't really have anything super concrete okay to share with us okay i mean they will be able to give us floor plans and they'll be able to show us finishes um yeah i don't feel like this is a reflection of that i think that process is still gonna okay time what i think this is if you're reading the tea leaves is that they have extended and we've asked for extensive community and staff outreach sure and they've spent a lot of time a lot of time and i don't i think it's going to be difficult to pull that pony back and yes that's the hard part right now yeah um just reading some of the you know recent emails uh-huh that's that's what i'm reading here the sort of add a hundred thousand dollars bothers me greatly um because in reference to your conversation in the past about the round number um i i i'm just concerned that it's like a black hole a little bit of black hole a little bit of black hole jared did mention that he he was hoping that he wouldn't have to add any money but we should be expecting that approximately that amount yeah okay he said he you know when we extended the schematic design phase you know that was already a creeping of the

  11. okay time what i think this is if you're reading the tea leaves is that they have extended and we've asked for extensive community and staff outreach sure and they've spent a lot of time a lot of time and i don't i think it's going to be difficult to pull that pony back and yes that's the hard part right now yeah um just reading some of the you know recent emails uh-huh that's that's what i'm reading here the sort of add a hundred thousand dollars bothers me greatly um because in reference to your conversation in the past about the round number um i i i'm just concerned that it's like a black hole a little bit of black hole a little bit of black hole jared did mention that he he was hoping that he wouldn't have to add any money but we should be expecting that approximately that amount yeah okay he said he you know when we extended the schematic design phase you know that was already a creeping of the scope and he felt we could he was hoping we could make up for it later and he said now that we're not he's like now I can't there's something I can do I need to charge my money my concern is how we're gonna harness that in yes well I already planned just what you said Joy that the we're gonna have to pull the pony back in the car so I have a Mac meeting but that you will yeah I have a Mac meeting tomorrow morning and I plan to let everybody know that this is it this is over no more we've gotten lots of feedback already all the way back to the pre-designed research report and the scope has already creeped and we're done now that's what it is yeah so we don't have to pay this right now or anything I assume that you guys would want to approve that by a formal vote what are you asking us to approve it now no so my reaction to this was

  12. extended the schematic design phase you know that was already a creeping of the scope and he felt we could he was hoping we could make up for it later and he said now that we're not he's like now I can't there's something I can do I need to charge my money my concern is how we're gonna harness that in yes well I already planned just what you said Joy that the we're gonna have to pull the pony back in the car so I have a Mac meeting but that you will yeah I have a Mac meeting tomorrow morning and I plan to let everybody know that this is it this is over no more we've gotten lots of feedback already all the way back to the pre-designed research report and the scope has already creeped and we're done now that's what it is yeah so we don't have to pay this right now or anything I assume that you guys would want to approve that by a formal vote what are you asking us to approve it now no so my reaction to this was The 100,000 seems like a made-up number. Oh, sure it is. We would like to see what exactly is What are we being charged for? And by the way, that number shouldn't add up to 100. Right. It should add it to something less and something specific. I agree. And what that looks like going forward to how that money is going to be put back in. What does that mean? Or are we going to be in the same place in a couple months? How are we going to pull that point out? Yeah. A lot of it's up to me at this point. It's fine. It's my job. All right. So I'll go back and ask for a more, a better breakdown of what we're being charged for. Okay. Can you tell me the board's reaction was completely adverse. Simply looking for something demonstrative of the incremental policy. Yes. Okay. Because it's, it's really, I don't want to say it's our fault. It's our, it's been our invitation to the people that we know that this is important to. And they're the biggest part of staff. Yes. And we only want stakeholders to feel a part of.

  13. The 100,000 seems like a made-up number. Oh, sure it is. We would like to see what exactly is What are we being charged for? And by the way, that number shouldn't add up to 100. Right. It should add it to something less and something specific. I agree. And what that looks like going forward to how that money is going to be put back in. What does that mean? Or are we going to be in the same place in a couple months? How are we going to pull that point out? Yeah. A lot of it's up to me at this point. It's fine. It's my job. All right. So I'll go back and ask for a more, a better breakdown of what we're being charged for. Okay. Can you tell me the board's reaction was completely adverse. Simply looking for something demonstrative of the incremental policy. Yes. Okay. Because it's, it's really, I don't want to say it's our fault. It's our, it's been our invitation to the people that we know that this is important to. And they're the biggest part of staff. Yes. And we only want stakeholders to feel a part of. Yes. Right. But. But not a $100,000 figure. And they, and by now, they absolutely should. Right. Yes. Yeah. Um. Well, I also think we do this as a buffer for us so that if we do. Oh, yeah. Where's the other? have a complaint from one of our constituents that he or she we had the chairs the furniture out we had yeah chat times and we we can explain it it's not as if we were just nefarious and like oh yeah yeah yeah yes you're right I mean it was very important to me to make sure that we got a lot of sure but yeah from you and from all of us we wanted that he wasn't you know you were doing this without our support right right right yeah sure if the staff is not happy then no one is going to be right t-shirt all right well thank you for your feedback on that and I will keep you posted on what happens next our next meeting is well our next meeting for the design committees Thursday that'll be a virtual meeting or just kind of a

  14. And we only want stakeholders to feel a part of. Yes. Right. But. But not a $100,000 figure. And they, and by now, they absolutely should. Right. Yes. Yeah. Um. Well, I also think we do this as a buffer for us so that if we do. Oh, yeah. Where's the other? have a complaint from one of our constituents that he or she we had the chairs the furniture out we had yeah chat times and we we can explain it it's not as if we were just nefarious and like oh yeah yeah yeah yes you're right I mean it was very important to me to make sure that we got a lot of sure but yeah from you and from all of us we wanted that he wasn't you know you were doing this without our support right right right yeah sure if the staff is not happy then no one is going to be right t-shirt all right well thank you for your feedback on that and I will keep you posted on what happens next our next meeting is well our next meeting for the design committees Thursday that'll be a virtual meeting or just kind of a check-in and then the Michigan Library Association conference is next week and Jenna and Chloe and I are presenting at that on this project then staff development day so there's like a bunch of meetings coming up and then yeah our next meeting on it would be December 11th building and grounds all right that's my report You know, I was asked to participate in some review of the, you know, the plumbing project, and I was just wondering, has that been put on hold a little while now? Yeah, I haven't had a chance to think about that yet. Okay, just wondering. But yes, I haven't forgotten. I didn't think you did, I was just wondering, that's all. It's lower level. I know, it's lower level. That's a question. Yes. That was a question, not a statement. It's always a lower level. It's not a lower level for everybody. I think the most wonderful aspect is the fact that it hasn't flooded. I don't fix it. I know.

  15. design committees Thursday that'll be a virtual meeting or just kind of a check-in and then the Michigan Library Association conference is next week and Jenna and Chloe and I are presenting at that on this project then staff development day so there's like a bunch of meetings coming up and then yeah our next meeting on it would be December 11th building and grounds all right that's my report You know, I was asked to participate in some review of the, you know, the plumbing project, and I was just wondering, has that been put on hold a little while now? Yeah, I haven't had a chance to think about that yet. Okay, just wondering. But yes, I haven't forgotten. I didn't think you did, I was just wondering, that's all. It's lower level. I know, it's lower level. That's a question. Yes. That was a question, not a statement. It's always a lower level. It's not a lower level for everybody. I think the most wonderful aspect is the fact that it hasn't flooded. I don't fix it. I know. I'll go under the table. It doesn't mean anything is solved. It just means we haven't had the right kind of rain. It means we need drought then. Yeah. Then we won't have the flooding. Well, maybe it's possibly taking the bushes out on that time. I mean, we've done some things, right? It looks so boring. I love them. You're awesome. Mm-hmm. Okay, wonderful. Thank you. So, next we have the budget intersections. Tara, on page four, you added a section, new vendors. At least I feel like it's not. Mm-hmm. Can you go through that? Yeah. Sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not. Let me get to it. Let me get to it. Use the end page. Use the end page. Let me get to it. You're right. We'll see you next time. If we have new vendors then it's there. If we don't have any new vendors, then we don't. All of those people are the, well, with the exception of Precision Law Lawn Irrigation, those are the members of Blackthorn, which was the band that we had play here on October 3rd, and they all wanted to be invoiced separately. And the lawn irrigation environment? Because our old irrigation company just wasn't working for us. Okay. I'll just go through my stuff and then turn it over. On the next page, page 5, we have a reference to Imperial Dade, and then there's the Plant and Moran bill.

  16. I'll go under the table. It doesn't mean anything is solved. It just means we haven't had the right kind of rain. It means we need drought then. Yeah. Then we won't have the flooding. Well, maybe it's possibly taking the bushes out on that time. I mean, we've done some things, right? It looks so boring. I love them. You're awesome. Mm-hmm. Okay, wonderful. Thank you. So, next we have the budget intersections. Tara, on page four, you added a section, new vendors. At least I feel like it's not. Mm-hmm. Can you go through that? Yeah. Sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not. Let me get to it. Let me get to it. Use the end page. Use the end page. Let me get to it. You're right. We'll see you next time. If we have new vendors then it's there. If we don't have any new vendors, then we don't. All of those people are the, well, with the exception of Precision Law Lawn Irrigation, those are the members of Blackthorn, which was the band that we had play here on October 3rd, and they all wanted to be invoiced separately. And the lawn irrigation environment? Because our old irrigation company just wasn't working for us. Okay. I'll just go through my stuff and then turn it over. On the next page, page 5, we have a reference to Imperial Dade, and then there's the Plant and Moran bill. Can you talk about those two? Yeah, Imperial Dade, you sometimes see them on here as network services. They are a vendor of janitorial supplies. And then Plant and Moran, that was work for, that Aaron did for us on the audit. I assume that will stop for a while. Yeah. Anybody else have any questions on the cash dispersions? I did not. I guess I have to ask what Flutterby is. Oh, it's a, I think it's a vendor of children's books. I know that one caught my eye, too. On page 7, we've got our budget, which I don't have any concerns over. Everything that's supposed to be on tracking is tracking. All right. Here we go. right here the amounts of cash and the yellow all look good all right anybody else have anything else for this section grade of return is still good 4.73 annual yield so i'll make a motion that on page 10 i move to

  17. Okay. I'll just go through my stuff and then turn it over. On the next page, page 5, we have a reference to Imperial Dade, and then there's the Plant and Moran bill. Can you talk about those two? Yeah, Imperial Dade, you sometimes see them on here as network services. They are a vendor of janitorial supplies. And then Plant and Moran, that was work for, that Aaron did for us on the audit. I assume that will stop for a while. Yeah. Anybody else have any questions on the cash dispersions? I did not. I guess I have to ask what Flutterby is. Oh, it's a, I think it's a vendor of children's books. I know that one caught my eye, too. On page 7, we've got our budget, which I don't have any concerns over. Everything that's supposed to be on tracking is tracking. All right. Here we go. right here the amounts of cash and the yellow all look good all right anybody else have anything else for this section grade of return is still good 4.73 annual yield so i'll make a motion that on page 10 i move to approve the monthly cash dispersals in the form of the check numbers noted for a grand total of 542 200.82 the specific amounts noted second oh go ahead nope it's yours all in favor aye thank you the next item is the motion to approve the remaining consent agenda items anybody want to move in do we have to have a motion if we didn't remove any oh right we didn't take anything out yeah you have to remove to approve oh no you're right we'll just approve it at the end right at the end and we didn't take any out yeah number 14 actually decided at the last meeting that we had to have a motion for the remaining items we need it at some point let's do it now oh i thought it was okay i'll move it anyway second i'll second it all in favor aye then we don't need to do 14. correct okay oh yes that's right that's when we would abuse okay i was testing london the call she has she has my pen yeah yeah jane jane bursche our soc representative go jane jane is also an administration library assistant too who works at the welcome desk

  18. grade of return is still good 4.73 annual yield so i'll make a motion that on page 10 i move to approve the monthly cash dispersals in the form of the check numbers noted for a grand total of 542 200.82 the specific amounts noted second oh go ahead nope it's yours all in favor aye thank you the next item is the motion to approve the remaining consent agenda items anybody want to move in do we have to have a motion if we didn't remove any oh right we didn't take anything out yeah you have to remove to approve oh no you're right we'll just approve it at the end right at the end and we didn't take any out yeah number 14 actually decided at the last meeting that we had to have a motion for the remaining items we need it at some point let's do it now oh i thought it was okay i'll move it anyway second i'll second it all in favor aye then we don't need to do 14. correct okay oh yes that's right that's when we would abuse okay i was testing london the call she has she has my pen yeah yeah jane jane bursche our soc representative go jane jane is also an administration library assistant too who works at the welcome desk So our current account balance is right around $4,500, our casualty funds is at $204.57 which is more than we usually take in and I'm speculating that it's because we now have a QR code so that people can pay that way through PayPal. So a lot of times, two months is about $200 so that's good and then we had about a little can drive and we got $108.10 from that and I think I mentioned last month that funds for September and October for the casualty amount will go to the Birmingham Bloomfield Community Coalition and right now we're doing a Halloween costume raffle so today and on Halloween the 31st its staff dresses up and has their picture taken in the staff hallway and submits it to the SOC email.

  19. So our current account balance is right around $4,500, our casualty funds is at $204.57 which is more than we usually take in and I'm speculating that it's because we now have a QR code so that people can pay that way through PayPal. So a lot of times, two months is about $200 so that's good and then we had about a little can drive and we got $108.10 from that and I think I mentioned last month that funds for September and October for the casualty amount will go to the Birmingham Bloomfield Community Coalition and right now we're doing a Halloween costume raffle so today and on Halloween the 31st its staff dresses up and has their picture taken in the staff hallway and submits it to the SOC email. There will be a drawing for what we're going to give away two $25 gift certificates or gift cards. there is Thank you. so just because uh i hope we see all those things yeah really oh boy it's my library that's the most creative scariest why did they wear it yeah you need a judge and then the last thing is we're planning a staff gathering on january 10th at fifth tavern yeah and we're invited still making fun that's nice that's the hope good you all will be invited yay how do you what do you do with 1040 cans like how do you do you put them in the machine one like do you split it up or do you just roll in there with a thousand jane does it you do it you can't do it all in one fell swoop i go up there with jane four casco lawn and leaf bags

  20. Bloomfield Community Coalition and right now we're doing a Halloween costume raffle so today and on Halloween the 31st its staff dresses up and has their picture taken in the staff hallway and submits it to the SOC email. There will be a drawing for what we're going to give away two $25 gift certificates or gift cards. there is Thank you. so just because uh i hope we see all those things yeah really oh boy it's my library that's the most creative scariest why did they wear it yeah you need a judge and then the last thing is we're planning a staff gathering on january 10th at fifth tavern yeah and we're invited still making fun that's nice that's the hope good you all will be invited yay how do you what do you do with 1040 cans like how do you do you put them in the machine one like do you split it up or do you just roll in there with a thousand jane does it you do it you can't do it all in one fell swoop i go up there with jane four casco lawn and leaf bags oh my god i love you she's dedicated bring back that person and as many purses i'll give you this it's right it's on the agenda for no for next month talking about that thanks thanks all right um unfinished business i thought i just um mentioned one more time that we're changing the start time This is the first time I'm hearing are you trying to drive me Like what it what did you do to alert the public of that? We changed our website. Okay, we have it posted back here in our display area posting area What else did we do Linda? So it's so it's long and it's been long enough that are we in my EC TV? No, that we're catching it on their website as well. Great. Yes, so It's better to come in at 7 p.m. Next. I'm sure and Jane knows you're first public in a year And so all the public who attend

  21. you do it you can't do it all in one fell swoop i go up there with jane four casco lawn and leaf bags oh my god i love you she's dedicated bring back that person and as many purses i'll give you this it's right it's on the agenda for no for next month talking about that thanks thanks all right um unfinished business i thought i just um mentioned one more time that we're changing the start time This is the first time I'm hearing are you trying to drive me Like what it what did you do to alert the public of that? We changed our website. Okay, we have it posted back here in our display area posting area What else did we do Linda? So it's so it's long and it's been long enough that are we in my EC TV? No, that we're catching it on their website as well. Great. Yes, so It's better to come in at 7 p.m. Next. I'm sure and Jane knows you're first public in a year And so all the public who attend And that's how we have our unfinished business You want me to keep going? Yeah, all right the new business community room AV system upgrade RFP award This is very exciting to me people have complained about the AV equipment in the community room since I started my career So I am happy to make some changes there As usual, I'll thank Catherine for her work on this she coordinates the work on any RFP mentioned it's a lot yeah um she has to wrinkle paul and me to try to get us to review all the rfps and we had some meetings to discuss it so we did a very thorough job i feel like and i'm gonna let katherine take it over sure thanks tara so yeah this encompasses all of the av equipment in the community room from the speakers and microphones to the projector and screen to the control panel and the equipment that goes in the rack paul was really instrumental in

  22. And so all the public who attend And that's how we have our unfinished business You want me to keep going? Yeah, all right the new business community room AV system upgrade RFP award This is very exciting to me people have complained about the AV equipment in the community room since I started my career So I am happy to make some changes there As usual, I'll thank Catherine for her work on this she coordinates the work on any RFP mentioned it's a lot yeah um she has to wrinkle paul and me to try to get us to review all the rfps and we had some meetings to discuss it so we did a very thorough job i feel like and i'm gonna let katherine take it over sure thanks tara so yeah this encompasses all of the av equipment in the community room from the speakers and microphones to the projector and screen to the control panel and the equipment that goes in the rack paul was really instrumental in understanding and setting specifications for all of the technical stuff and so i really appreciate his help and input and that of the it team we released this rfp in mid-july and did a mandatory walkthrough as we usually do when the bid has anything to do with the physical space itself um as shane noted earlier we had about 70 people uh 70 companies download the bid documents on bid net and we had i believe 14 uh i'm sorry 13 attend our mandatory walkthrough um which tracks uh with the numbers that we've been seeing the number of downloads and then the percentage of those that that come to the walkthrough and then about half the people that come to the walkthrough uh submitted uh submitted proposals all seven of those proposals are in the middle of the table for you, print it out. There was a range of prices in these proposals and a range of plans for our community room AV system. What we were really looking for was a clear understanding of

  23. to the control panel and the equipment that goes in the rack paul was really instrumental in understanding and setting specifications for all of the technical stuff and so i really appreciate his help and input and that of the it team we released this rfp in mid-july and did a mandatory walkthrough as we usually do when the bid has anything to do with the physical space itself um as shane noted earlier we had about 70 people uh 70 companies download the bid documents on bid net and we had i believe 14 uh i'm sorry 13 attend our mandatory walkthrough um which tracks uh with the numbers that we've been seeing the number of downloads and then the percentage of those that that come to the walkthrough and then about half the people that come to the walkthrough uh submitted uh submitted proposals all seven of those proposals are in the middle of the table for you, print it out. There was a range of prices in these proposals and a range of plans for our community room AV system. What we were really looking for was a clear understanding of the different uses of our space and a clear explanation of how the technologies these companies were proposing would meet the needs that we have. We wanted to make sure that the vendor really understood how our room is used for everything from toddler dance parties to graduation ceremonies to you know your more typical presentations that are and and concerts that happen at the library. And one company, CTI, really rose to the top with this. They showed just a lot of interest and enthusiasm in our project from the start. They attended the walkthrough, asked many questions, and stayed right through to the end to kind of get the lay of the land, understanding where wiring was run already in the room so that they had a good understanding of what already existed and what we were looking for. They followed up a few days later asking if they could come back again to make sure that they had a full understanding of the use cases.

  24. for our community room AV system. What we were really looking for was a clear understanding of the different uses of our space and a clear explanation of how the technologies these companies were proposing would meet the needs that we have. We wanted to make sure that the vendor really understood how our room is used for everything from toddler dance parties to graduation ceremonies to you know your more typical presentations that are and and concerts that happen at the library. And one company, CTI, really rose to the top with this. They showed just a lot of interest and enthusiasm in our project from the start. They attended the walkthrough, asked many questions, and stayed right through to the end to kind of get the lay of the land, understanding where wiring was run already in the room so that they had a good understanding of what already existed and what we were looking for. They followed up a few days later asking if they could come back again to make sure that they had a full understanding of the use cases. they put it for our community room and came back out and met with me and paul to discuss further all the different things that we were looking for uh at that time the uh the uh one of the people that was here mentioned that he grew up coming to this library and so he felt personally invested in making sure that we wound up with a good system um cti's proposal when received was clear clearly um outlined what equipment they wanted to put into place and why that would meet our needs and also offered some additional options um to choose from so we invited cti and one other company advanced lighting and sound for interviews to try to um get to know the company a little bit better see talk more about communication during the project you know this is a public space wanting to make sure that they understand that check in on timeline and get a better understanding for ourselves of what technology they were proposing um cti showed up very well prepared for the interview with three people kind of a sales person somebody i think he might have been a vp and then a technical

  25. they put it for our community room and came back out and met with me and paul to discuss further all the different things that we were looking for uh at that time the uh the uh one of the people that was here mentioned that he grew up coming to this library and so he felt personally invested in making sure that we wound up with a good system um cti's proposal when received was clear clearly um outlined what equipment they wanted to put into place and why that would meet our needs and also offered some additional options um to choose from so we invited cti and one other company advanced lighting and sound for interviews to try to um get to know the company a little bit better see talk more about communication during the project you know this is a public space wanting to make sure that they understand that check in on timeline and get a better understanding for ourselves of what technology they were proposing um cti showed up very well prepared for the interview with three people kind of a sales person somebody i think he might have been a vp and then a technical person who kind of understood all the wiring and all the different components and how they would work together they were able to answer all of our questions and when asked to follow up with a couple additional questions and when asked to follow up with a couple additional options they did so within a day um and for all of those reasons we really feel that cti is going to do the job and do it well at um again at a medium price from the different proposals that we that we received have we used them before we have not we have not this is a new to us vendor it is a national company um it's large i believe 45 offices sorry i've got a couple different documents going here uh 44 offices across the country with over 1200 employees so one of the things that we liked about that is they do have a local office in novi but they also have the infrastructure to respond to questions warranty issues and follow up with with various things is there any relationship between management and this company no basically they didn't specify library experience i'm sorry right oh i saw there but i'm wondering if if they haven't been in

  26. with three people kind of a sales person somebody i think he might have been a vp and then a technical person who kind of understood all the wiring and all the different components and how they would work together they were able to answer all of our questions and when asked to follow up with a couple additional questions and when asked to follow up with a couple additional options they did so within a day um and for all of those reasons we really feel that cti is going to do the job and do it well at um again at a medium price from the different proposals that we that we received have we used them before we have not we have not this is a new to us vendor it is a national company um it's large i believe 45 offices sorry i've got a couple different documents going here uh 44 offices across the country with over 1200 employees so one of the things that we liked about that is they do have a local office in novi but they also have the infrastructure to respond to questions warranty issues and follow up with with various things is there any relationship between management and this company no basically they didn't specify library experience i'm sorry right oh i saw there but i'm wondering if if they haven't been in libraries do they have something that they offered as comparable kind of experience in public they had municipal um experience and the references that i checked were um sumter township canton township um and uh city of country and they worked in the city of detroit so doing like um um meeting spaces uh for township similar but township board and their references were outstanding and do they have I see the training for staff um so once they leave and it's installed have we appointed or identified someone on staff that would be a person yep train the trainer kind of exactly yep I was shocked at the difference that the one right next to it it's a hundred and seventy four thousand yeah they also sent 44 separate PDFs oh they're the package yeah yeah yeah on this last comment additional electrical and carpentry work to be done by others minimal I don't believe so the carpentry

  27. library experience i'm sorry right oh i saw there but i'm wondering if if they haven't been in libraries do they have something that they offered as comparable kind of experience in public they had municipal um experience and the references that i checked were um sumter township canton township um and uh city of country and they worked in the city of detroit so doing like um um meeting spaces uh for township similar but township board and their references were outstanding and do they have I see the training for staff um so once they leave and it's installed have we appointed or identified someone on staff that would be a person yep train the trainer kind of exactly yep I was shocked at the difference that the one right next to it it's a hundred and seventy four thousand yeah they also sent 44 separate PDFs oh they're the package yeah yeah yeah on this last comment additional electrical and carpentry work to be done by others minimal I don't believe so the carpentry work is in the community room the projector screen for aesthetic reasons is hidden inside a fake wooden beam that blends in with the other real wooden beams in the room and because we are asking for a larger projector screen they will need to cut into that beam to make room for the new screen so we don't have an estimate on exactly how much that will cost and then electrical we we didn't get an estimate on that there shouldn't be much electrical needed because they're other than the speakers they're really using the same placement for everything there you um i'm hoping it'll be under the five thousand dollar threshold we'll see um i appreciate the details that you did with paul and also on the other end i mean i was like oh yeah that was good all these i mean yeah yeah that was that was really good and obviously it'll go well for what

  28. and carpentry work to be done by others minimal I don't believe so the carpentry work is in the community room the projector screen for aesthetic reasons is hidden inside a fake wooden beam that blends in with the other real wooden beams in the room and because we are asking for a larger projector screen they will need to cut into that beam to make room for the new screen so we don't have an estimate on exactly how much that will cost and then electrical we we didn't get an estimate on that there shouldn't be much electrical needed because they're other than the speakers they're really using the same placement for everything there you um i'm hoping it'll be under the five thousand dollar threshold we'll see um i appreciate the details that you did with paul and also on the other end i mean i was like oh yeah that was good all these i mean yeah yeah that was that was really good and obviously it'll go well for what we'll receive i think so what we're paying and we've we've blocked off the community room for the work to be done um from mid-december through the first week of january and they've assured us that they will be able to work within that timeline and they anticipate all equipment to come in within that between now and then anybody else have questions no is there a motion here anywhere there it is yes h36 yes i moved to approve awarding the community room av upgrade bid to cti four zero zero zero zero grand river avenue suite two zero one novi michigan four eight three seven five second all favor aye all right thank you Thank you so much. We'll get started on that project. Thank you. Yeah, really. You've been talking about this time. You just want, you want, you want, you want, you want, you want, you want, you want, you have an external speaker set that has to come out so it sounds better.

  29. good all these i mean yeah yeah that was that was really good and obviously it'll go well for what we'll receive i think so what we're paying and we've we've blocked off the community room for the work to be done um from mid-december through the first week of january and they've assured us that they will be able to work within that timeline and they anticipate all equipment to come in within that between now and then anybody else have questions no is there a motion here anywhere there it is yes h36 yes i moved to approve awarding the community room av upgrade bid to cti four zero zero zero zero grand river avenue suite two zero one novi michigan four eight three seven five second all favor aye all right thank you Thank you so much. We'll get started on that project. Thank you. Yeah, really. You've been talking about this time. You just want, you want, you want, you want, you want, you want, you want, you want, you have an external speaker set that has to come out so it sounds better. I'm so excited to never use that again. That sound system. That takes us to other? Do you have any other? I don't. I do. I do too. I just have a quick curiosity. First off, the urns are great. Oh, good. Yay, yay, yay. Good. I have not heard anything lately about the vending machine man at home. Maybe I shouldn't be asking. No. Oh, because I know that there was a big brouhaha. I think that one group had quit and then they, then they had this another guy who came in and is everything going smoothly? Okay. The dust has settled there. Okay. Great. And the current company, what are they called, Catherine? J2H? J-H2? J-H2. It's a J and H and a 2. It's a mom and pop company and they just hired their first employee. Oh, nice. They're so much better. Oh, that is so good. I'm so glad to hear. They're very kind and responsive. Oh, good. I mean, we still have machines that jam and eat your money. Right. But the firm itself is very good. But they come out when called. Yes. Oh, good. They're great. Because that's been quite a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But I hadn't heard about it in a while. And so I thought. Well, no. Yes. No news is good. Yes. That's right. Thank you. Thank you too. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

  30. have an external speaker set that has to come out so it sounds better. I'm so excited to never use that again. That sound system. That takes us to other? Do you have any other? I don't. I do. I do too. I just have a quick curiosity. First off, the urns are great. Oh, good. Yay, yay, yay. Good. I have not heard anything lately about the vending machine man at home. Maybe I shouldn't be asking. No. Oh, because I know that there was a big brouhaha. I think that one group had quit and then they, then they had this another guy who came in and is everything going smoothly? Okay. The dust has settled there. Okay. Great. And the current company, what are they called, Catherine? J2H? J-H2? J-H2. It's a J and H and a 2. It's a mom and pop company and they just hired their first employee. Oh, nice. They're so much better. Oh, that is so good. I'm so glad to hear. They're very kind and responsive. Oh, good. I mean, we still have machines that jam and eat your money. Right. But the firm itself is very good. But they come out when called. Yes. Oh, good. They're great. Because that's been quite a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But I hadn't heard about it in a while. And so I thought. Well, no. Yes. No news is good. Yes. That's right. Thank you. Thank you too. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Anybody else? I got a few with apologies. How's the handbook? The employee handbook? That is next on my list of things to distribute. We're going to distribute that through our Bamboo HR software and have people sign up on it there. So we've got to do that in the next couple weeks or so. Can you talk about voting? Yeah, early voting is coming, as was in my written report when he'd been. Yeah, it starts this Saturday, 8.30 to 4.30 through November 2nd, which is a Sunday. It's 8.30 to 4.30 every day except Thursday, October 30th, when it is 12 to 8. There are only two communities out of the three that we're an early voting site for that have an election. Bloomfield Hills School District has a sinking fund question, so Bloomfield Township voters will be here. The City of Birmingham has City Commission seats and Library Board seats, so the City of Birmingham voters will be here. Southfield Township has nothing. And then don't forget that we are also a regular precinct location on voting day, so Precinct 10 for Bloomfield Township will vote here on Tuesday. Is that new? Yes, as of, I can't remember, when did we do that?

  31. Anybody else? I got a few with apologies. How's the handbook? The employee handbook? That is next on my list of things to distribute. We're going to distribute that through our Bamboo HR software and have people sign up on it there. So we've got to do that in the next couple weeks or so. Can you talk about voting? Yeah, early voting is coming, as was in my written report when he'd been. Yeah, it starts this Saturday, 8.30 to 4.30 through November 2nd, which is a Sunday. It's 8.30 to 4.30 every day except Thursday, October 30th, when it is 12 to 8. There are only two communities out of the three that we're an early voting site for that have an election. Bloomfield Hills School District has a sinking fund question, so Bloomfield Township voters will be here. The City of Birmingham has City Commission seats and Library Board seats, so the City of Birmingham voters will be here. Southfield Township has nothing. And then don't forget that we are also a regular precinct location on voting day, so Precinct 10 for Bloomfield Township will vote here on Tuesday. Is that new? Yes, as of, I can't remember, when did we do that? Early this year, but there hasn't been an election since then. So this will be the first time for us. So this, we will actually be a presidential election, District 2. Okay, wow. Yes, so this is the first election that we've had. year the last one was november of 2024 um i think so the turnout for the presidential election was almost 80 for the election that was on the same cycle so two years before that um i think 2023 one year it was like 29 25 to 29 so i think turnout will be much lower we won't have the um uproar you know hoopla that we did for the presidential election so i think it's going to be fine so i still have coffee with the people who the elderly couple who are in front of me really yeah everyone's all like every other one yeah we did so from now i will will be the early voting as we have been but then we'll also be election day or precinct precinct yeah for precinct 10. just couldn't get enough i know i love voting and then um jane and her cohorts will be well versed and they will yeah we've had some extra communication with the clerk's office and we've

  32. Yes, as of, I can't remember, when did we do that? Early this year, but there hasn't been an election since then. So this will be the first time for us. So this, we will actually be a presidential election, District 2. Okay, wow. Yes, so this is the first election that we've had. year the last one was november of 2024 um i think so the turnout for the presidential election was almost 80 for the election that was on the same cycle so two years before that um i think 2023 one year it was like 29 25 to 29 so i think turnout will be much lower we won't have the um uproar you know hoopla that we did for the presidential election so i think it's going to be fine so i still have coffee with the people who the elderly couple who are in front of me really yeah everyone's all like every other one yeah we did so from now i will will be the early voting as we have been but then we'll also be election day or precinct precinct yeah for precinct 10. just couldn't get enough i know i love voting and then um jane and her cohorts will be well versed and they will yeah we've had some extra communication with the clerk's office and we've asked them for a handout to explain you know voter registration right and all that kind of stuff to take a little bit of the burden these pens are great tell them to bring their hands out me was there anything else that you wanted to know about that no that's wonderful i also i enjoyed reading the art committee minutes and i don't know if you guys have any comments on that like there's a lot going on the outdoor sculpture what was it it was a sculpture that would be best served in more of a wooded area you where you'd sort of mingle it with the trees and walk around the corner and see it it was um it was different it was it looked nice from the photograph you really can't tell from a photograph but it was it was not appropriate for our space it was just it was it was large and the other thing is that was climbable so we were afraid that little kids might climb on it and because it hadn't even think about it had been you know and so we would have had to bolt it down and then you didn't know and a high wind or something so but we gave them the the school farm not a school from the nature center and the new Davidson building so on Woodward so but she seemed very nice about yeah I was grateful that we gave her those suggestions I like those ideas it's it's very sensory it will activate

  33. well versed and they will yeah we've had some extra communication with the clerk's office and we've asked them for a handout to explain you know voter registration right and all that kind of stuff to take a little bit of the burden these pens are great tell them to bring their hands out me was there anything else that you wanted to know about that no that's wonderful i also i enjoyed reading the art committee minutes and i don't know if you guys have any comments on that like there's a lot going on the outdoor sculpture what was it it was a sculpture that would be best served in more of a wooded area you where you'd sort of mingle it with the trees and walk around the corner and see it it was um it was different it was it looked nice from the photograph you really can't tell from a photograph but it was it was not appropriate for our space it was just it was it was large and the other thing is that was climbable so we were afraid that little kids might climb on it and because it hadn't even think about it had been you know and so we would have had to bolt it down and then you didn't know and a high wind or something so but we gave them the the school farm not a school from the nature center and the new Davidson building so on Woodward so but she seemed very nice about yeah I was grateful that we gave her those suggestions I like those ideas it's it's very sensory it will activate your eyes and your your ears I don't think your nose but your eyes and your ears and I smell garlic but I think they're gonna be really cool I think they'll be a really fine addition to who's idea was that it was Jen's idea and the friends are looking for something to commemorate like that's right yes yes I would love to go on this art walk around you do you know normally I invite the president to committee meetings and I was remiss of not inviting you so you can come to that no I don't schedule around but you guys scheduled it, maybe I can go. And then the donor wall, will you talk about that? Like, what are we thinking? You know, I am a bugaboo. I pitched this idea. Yeah, this is your idea. I'm a bugaboo because I've seen it at other libraries and I don't like it, but what you showed us, I went online to look and I looked at a few of them. It can be quite beautiful. And the issue that we have is people who give money, it's in that book thing that's on the wall and it's like made of paper and it's just very strange. And when you look at how gorgeous and lovely our library is, it's not indicative of what we represent.

  34. her those suggestions I like those ideas it's it's very sensory it will activate your eyes and your your ears I don't think your nose but your eyes and your ears and I smell garlic but I think they're gonna be really cool I think they'll be a really fine addition to who's idea was that it was Jen's idea and the friends are looking for something to commemorate like that's right yes yes I would love to go on this art walk around you do you know normally I invite the president to committee meetings and I was remiss of not inviting you so you can come to that no I don't schedule around but you guys scheduled it, maybe I can go. And then the donor wall, will you talk about that? Like, what are we thinking? You know, I am a bugaboo. I pitched this idea. Yeah, this is your idea. I'm a bugaboo because I've seen it at other libraries and I don't like it, but what you showed us, I went online to look and I looked at a few of them. It can be quite beautiful. And the issue that we have is people who give money, it's in that book thing that's on the wall and it's like made of paper and it's just very strange. And when you look at how gorgeous and lovely our library is, it's not indicative of what we represent. And so Tara had had some ideas and we talked about different areas to have it. So it wouldn't be necessarily someplace that would hit you in the face. It would be someplace that you'd have to meander and find, not that it would be the first thing, but I think that it's a good source for obviously remembrance and for people who found, when we talked about CTI, the person had some great ideas about this and great memories. And so, but it's also a way to make some monies that we could dedicate and donate to a different way. So, but your ideas, I thought some of them were quite beautiful. What you saw, so it can be nice. Yeah, yeah, but it's not anything that would be in the direct line of most things. So we're thinking, this is a beautiful hall here, maybe in this area or something. So the other ones I had were on the complaints. I don't know if you guys read them. Comments. Comments, yeah. Comments. I don't think comments are great, but I never asked them. Quits. spending money. Do you know what that was? I really don't. My only intel on that is that the welcome desk clerk, and you, Jane is the one who collects all the comments from the box, and we do know when it was placed, but it's not like somebody came up to the desk and was mad about

  35. our library is, it's not indicative of what we represent. And so Tara had had some ideas and we talked about different areas to have it. So it wouldn't be necessarily someplace that would hit you in the face. It would be someplace that you'd have to meander and find, not that it would be the first thing, but I think that it's a good source for obviously remembrance and for people who found, when we talked about CTI, the person had some great ideas about this and great memories. And so, but it's also a way to make some monies that we could dedicate and donate to a different way. So, but your ideas, I thought some of them were quite beautiful. What you saw, so it can be nice. Yeah, yeah, but it's not anything that would be in the direct line of most things. So we're thinking, this is a beautiful hall here, maybe in this area or something. So the other ones I had were on the complaints. I don't know if you guys read them. Comments. Comments, yeah. Comments. I don't think comments are great, but I never asked them. Quits. spending money. Do you know what that was? I really don't. My only intel on that is that the welcome desk clerk, and you, Jane is the one who collects all the comments from the box, and we do know when it was placed, but it's not like somebody came up to the desk and was mad about something and then jotted down a comment. He, I think what somebody said was like you could tell that he was like scribbling something and then it went in the box, so we don't know who it was or why they said that. I'm wondering if it was because of all the furniture. Right, was the furniture at the same? Yeah, it was just, it just ended. Yeah, that's what my thinking was, yeah, because that could be, looks expensive, some of the pieces look expensive, so. Is that, excuse me, is that the only recent comment we've had money spending? Yeah, never. Yeah. There were one or two comments placed at the furniture fair, and the comment box were that, that said like, spend more money on books instead of this, the current furniture is fine. You know, it's not a common sentiment, but not unexpected. Right, right. You know, especially, you know, you don't know if people spend a lot of time, sure, in here, or just come in and grab a book and go. Sure. They understand how bad off furnishings are. Is there any kind of, um, is anybody anticipating that,

  36. we do know when it was placed, but it's not like somebody came up to the desk and was mad about something and then jotted down a comment. He, I think what somebody said was like you could tell that he was like scribbling something and then it went in the box, so we don't know who it was or why they said that. I'm wondering if it was because of all the furniture. Right, was the furniture at the same? Yeah, it was just, it just ended. Yeah, that's what my thinking was, yeah, because that could be, looks expensive, some of the pieces look expensive, so. Is that, excuse me, is that the only recent comment we've had money spending? Yeah, never. Yeah. There were one or two comments placed at the furniture fair, and the comment box were that, that said like, spend more money on books instead of this, the current furniture is fine. You know, it's not a common sentiment, but not unexpected. Right, right. You know, especially, you know, you don't know if people spend a lot of time, sure, in here, or just come in and grab a book and go. Sure. They understand how bad off furnishings are. Is there any kind of, um, is anybody anticipating that, Costs of printed materials will go up as a result of the Baker and Taylor. That's a good question I don't know. There's a library journal usually does an article every year on like I mean this was so unexpected Yeah, I don't know that anybody anticipated it But I just wonder if that's something to be aware of. Yeah, especially it you know whenever they start talking budget Yeah, I'll have to look at that I'm surprised that you know like private equity hasn't come in. Yeah Yeah, oh, I think that wasn't I think that was part of the issue was that they were trying to Go to a buyer and that the deal fell through. Yeah, so in a way but this you know Surviving Vendors that are there might be low-balling to get budget sure money Mm-hmm Yeah, but they need to know I or just oh, yeah, oh, okay. Anyway, sorry to interrupt I just I'm just wondering if there were other comments about There was a comment about an EV charger, which of course I would love Do we have any thoughts on that? Yeah, we have thoughts I We've talked about when we do redo the parking lot

  37. Costs of printed materials will go up as a result of the Baker and Taylor. That's a good question I don't know. There's a library journal usually does an article every year on like I mean this was so unexpected Yeah, I don't know that anybody anticipated it But I just wonder if that's something to be aware of. Yeah, especially it you know whenever they start talking budget Yeah, I'll have to look at that I'm surprised that you know like private equity hasn't come in. Yeah Yeah, oh, I think that wasn't I think that was part of the issue was that they were trying to Go to a buyer and that the deal fell through. Yeah, so in a way but this you know Surviving Vendors that are there might be low-balling to get budget sure money Mm-hmm Yeah, but they need to know I or just oh, yeah, oh, okay. Anyway, sorry to interrupt I just I'm just wondering if there were other comments about There was a comment about an EV charger, which of course I would love Do we have any thoughts on that? Yeah, we have thoughts I We've talked about when we do redo the parking lot We'd be adding some I wonder if there's a way to get the government to pay for that because it's They're so expensive and the maintenance is so expensive because they they will break and they don't work And I guess we'll talk about that. Yeah, I don't know much about them And the last one that I had was for you the boxwoods have moths apparently this is one they have to be sprayed right there that and there's so many diseases going my plant just got one a cranberry that's really bad now I think of what oh hemlocks are not there they're being inundated with different bugs and things I don't think we have many hemlocks here though but the boxwood occasionally they should be sprayed too so you can call American arborists or I think Tom's already aware of it okay he personally is at his house yeah this wasn't that in the spring yeah and that's usually when you get rid of them so I can make sure they will come back if they're sprayed yeah and fed yeah also oh yeah yeah they're pretty hardy and I haven't been your house yet I will drive no point now the leaves are all the crap oh they'll pick one up for me oh I was supposed to do that yeah

  38. We've talked about when we do redo the parking lot We'd be adding some I wonder if there's a way to get the government to pay for that because it's They're so expensive and the maintenance is so expensive because they they will break and they don't work And I guess we'll talk about that. Yeah, I don't know much about them And the last one that I had was for you the boxwoods have moths apparently this is one they have to be sprayed right there that and there's so many diseases going my plant just got one a cranberry that's really bad now I think of what oh hemlocks are not there they're being inundated with different bugs and things I don't think we have many hemlocks here though but the boxwood occasionally they should be sprayed too so you can call American arborists or I think Tom's already aware of it okay he personally is at his house yeah this wasn't that in the spring yeah and that's usually when you get rid of them so I can make sure they will come back if they're sprayed yeah and fed yeah also oh yeah yeah they're pretty hardy and I haven't been your house yet I will drive no point now the leaves are all the crap oh they'll pick one up for me oh I was supposed to do that yeah that was my fault um okay that's all anybody else got anything you want to talk about just uh cheers to our wonderful friends of the library yes during friends of the library week they do such a great job of they're wonderful ambassadors in our community and they do a great job supporting our library and library services so programs everything yes did you all sign the card yes yes great thank you for that and I'll drop off some treats and goodies yeah and I saw the email mmm that went out and we've got some stuff yeah it's really nice yeah and when do we meet next it's six is it 6 30 wait let's hear what time is it 6 30 wait you want to know that we're trying to make six of our great team six thirty different one second the motion picture I'll second it

  39. leaves are all the crap oh they'll pick one up for me oh I was supposed to do that yeah that was my fault um okay that's all anybody else got anything you want to talk about just uh cheers to our wonderful friends of the library yes during friends of the library week they do such a great job of they're wonderful ambassadors in our community and they do a great job supporting our library and library services so programs everything yes did you all sign the card yes yes great thank you for that and I'll drop off some treats and goodies yeah and I saw the email mmm that went out and we've got some stuff yeah it's really nice yeah and when do we meet next it's six is it 6 30 wait let's hear what time is it 6 30 wait you want to know that we're trying to make six of our great team six thirty different one second the motion picture I'll second it