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Board Of Trustees Tuesday, October 14, 2025 · 73 min

Bloomfield Township Board of Trustees Meeting on October 13, 2025

Summary

Bloomfield Township city council meeting discussed road maintenance, funding, and development, including a car wash proposal at 4025 Telegraph Road, with a focus on addressing infrastructure needs and community concerns.

  • Residents expressed concerns about road conditions and maintenance in Bloomfield Township.
  • The city council discussed road funding, transfers from the general fund, and the limitations of available resources.
  • A car wash proposal at 4025 Telegraph Road was reviewed and approved with certain conditions.
  • The township's DPW department is doing preventative maintenance on roads, but the cost of SADs is increasing and a burden on homeowners.
  • The township's SAD funding is unsustainable and affects bond and credit ratings.

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  1. Welcome to the Bloomfield Township Board of Trustees meeting on Monday, October the 13th. If you'll stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Welcome everybody at our new starting time of 6.30 p.m. on this beautiful October fall day. And item number one on our agenda is public comment. If you're here to make a comment on any issue within the township, now is your time to come up to the podium to my right and your left, and we ask that you stay within a three-minute time limit. Hi. My name is Marcy Deschler, 6924 Cedarbrook. I'm here to just give some feedback and comments. I'm the recent ZBA meeting for the Enclave that was held on September 30th. I just wanted to provide some of the comments from the residents that were here. We did have a packed room. We did have a full house. And there was a document, a formal complaint that was submitted over the weekend as well, which I believe you've all received. If you haven't, you should reach out to get a copy. We did have a well-thought-out and planned presentation that spoke to the ordinances. It was factual. We had well-thought-out arguments. However, despite all this, our concerns really fell on deaf ears. We had a lot of sense in surprise. Welcome to ourkrit resources. We just want to reiterate that the ZBA, particularly the board chair, was very dismissive and condescending. A couple examples would be there was a resident who was complaining about other residents way off topic. That person was permitted to speak. However, one of the residents speaking about the trees and the trees that were being clear cut and so forth, he actually was interrupted and said, are you just going to talk about trees? Is that it? I mean, it was very disrespectful. Additionally, we were ordered around. We couldn't line up to have our three minutes go in order. He went by row. So it was people getting up and moving all over. It was very disruptive. There was a woman attorney, Carol R., she made comments that said, clear cutting is not an issue. All builders clear cut, which we were surprised to hear. No one wants to live on telegraph. There's no R1 housing on telegraph when the room was full of people who live on a write-off telegraph. And particularly if you go up the street, Foxcroft is another sub that's right on telegraph.

  2. If you haven't, you should reach out to get a copy. We did have a well-thought-out and planned presentation that spoke to the ordinances. It was factual. We had well-thought-out arguments. However, despite all this, our concerns really fell on deaf ears. We had a lot of sense in surprise. Welcome to ourkrit resources. We just want to reiterate that the ZBA, particularly the board chair, was very dismissive and condescending. A couple examples would be there was a resident who was complaining about other residents way off topic. That person was permitted to speak. However, one of the residents speaking about the trees and the trees that were being clear cut and so forth, he actually was interrupted and said, are you just going to talk about trees? Is that it? I mean, it was very disrespectful. Additionally, we were ordered around. We couldn't line up to have our three minutes go in order. He went by row. So it was people getting up and moving all over. It was very disruptive. There was a woman attorney, Carol R., she made comments that said, clear cutting is not an issue. All builders clear cut, which we were surprised to hear. No one wants to live on telegraph. There's no R1 housing on telegraph when the room was full of people who live on a write-off telegraph. And particularly if you go up the street, Foxcroft is another sub that's right on telegraph. So we're really confused about that. They basically negotiated a number of homes. They asked Robertson to give them a number. Some of the residents, here's the feedback. Clear cutting is a huge problem for Bloomfield. What can we do and what has changed? The township will allow this. And how can we work with a developer that's not willing to negotiate on real issues? Individuals have to beg for variances and often are not granted them, but a developer gets... whatever they want there was questions on the temple is a is another party that is a benefiting from this so why were they given so much speaking time there was somebody in the hallway who was telling our group of people to stop talking and to shut the whatever up it was very disrespectful there was questions on the water and sewer survey survey why no one else no one spoke up for the residents that was the overall general consensus and one trustee was texting on his phone throughout the meeting and actually had his eyes closed so we just wanted to share that feedback we're very disappointed we're disappointed with the result we hope some changes can be made going forward thank you thank you any further comment under public comment if not we'll close public comment and

  3. And particularly if you go up the street, Foxcroft is another sub that's right on telegraph. So we're really confused about that. They basically negotiated a number of homes. They asked Robertson to give them a number. Some of the residents, here's the feedback. Clear cutting is a huge problem for Bloomfield. What can we do and what has changed? The township will allow this. And how can we work with a developer that's not willing to negotiate on real issues? Individuals have to beg for variances and often are not granted them, but a developer gets... whatever they want there was questions on the temple is a is another party that is a benefiting from this so why were they given so much speaking time there was somebody in the hallway who was telling our group of people to stop talking and to shut the whatever up it was very disrespectful there was questions on the water and sewer survey survey why no one else no one spoke up for the residents that was the overall general consensus and one trustee was texting on his phone throughout the meeting and actually had his eyes closed so we just wanted to share that feedback we're very disappointed we're disappointed with the result we hope some changes can be made going forward thank you thank you any further comment under public comment if not we'll close public comment and move to item number two that can consider the consent agenda items 2abc and d i would like to remove um item c and item d item c and d mark is that yes yes sir okay c and d okay and we'll move those to when we come back out of private session to 6a and b if not i'll take a motion motion to approve items a and b support support all in favor say aye aye any opposed it passes seven to nothing item number three presentation of bloomfield hill school district sinking fund millage proposal presented by our schools Superintendent Rick West. Welcome, Rick. Thank you and good evening. I appreciate this opportunity to inform our community about a proposal, millage proposal that is on November 4th's ballot. Many of you probably received an absentee ballot already. I understand those have gone out and just wanted to inform the community regarding the question being asked. The School District Board of Education did in June or July approve that this millage be put

  4. you thank you any further comment under public comment if not we'll close public comment and move to item number two that can consider the consent agenda items 2abc and d i would like to remove um item c and item d item c and d mark is that yes yes sir okay c and d okay and we'll move those to when we come back out of private session to 6a and b if not i'll take a motion motion to approve items a and b support support all in favor say aye aye any opposed it passes seven to nothing item number three presentation of bloomfield hill school district sinking fund millage proposal presented by our schools Superintendent Rick West. Welcome, Rick. Thank you and good evening. I appreciate this opportunity to inform our community about a proposal, millage proposal that is on November 4th's ballot. Many of you probably received an absentee ballot already. I understand those have gone out and just wanted to inform the community regarding the question being asked. The School District Board of Education did in June or July approve that this millage be put on the ballot for November. It is a one and a half mil sinking fund for a 10-year statutory limited amount of time for the sinking fund to be levied. So currently the community is paying a .7 mil sinking fund. We are asking for one and a half mil after careful consideration from the Board of Education and looking at our needs over the next decade. We are asking for this. We anticipate it to generate about 90 million dollars over the 10 years. It's a pay-as-you-go strategy for the four allowable areas. That being infrastructure needs, repairs. Rick, I don't want to interrupt you, but talk to the Board. Oh, I'm sorry. You're addressing the board. I'm sorry, thank you, thank you. So we are talking about four allowable areas. We're talking about technology, transportation, safety and security, and infrastructure. So those four areas and . Thank you, Mr. McCready, for your work as a legislator and the expansion of those uses. So we are very excited about this opportunity. We believe it's a financially smart strategy to pay as you go to invest in the school district's physical assets.

  5. or July approve that this millage be put on the ballot for November. It is a one and a half mil sinking fund for a 10-year statutory limited amount of time for the sinking fund to be levied. So currently the community is paying a .7 mil sinking fund. We are asking for one and a half mil after careful consideration from the Board of Education and looking at our needs over the next decade. We are asking for this. We anticipate it to generate about 90 million dollars over the 10 years. It's a pay-as-you-go strategy for the four allowable areas. That being infrastructure needs, repairs. Rick, I don't want to interrupt you, but talk to the Board. Oh, I'm sorry. You're addressing the board. I'm sorry, thank you, thank you. So we are talking about four allowable areas. We're talking about technology, transportation, safety and security, and infrastructure. So those four areas and . Thank you, Mr. McCready, for your work as a legislator and the expansion of those uses. So we are very excited about this opportunity. We believe it's a financially smart strategy to pay as you go to invest in the school district's physical assets. So I'm going to leave some documents behind, if I can, for the community to have more information. I've also had two public events in the past couple of weeks. I have a third one that will be virtually trying to accommodate all of the needs of our community, and that will be on next Thursday, October 23rd at noon. It's a virtual meeting to allow people to, I'll go through a more formal presentation and provide time for question and answer. So I certainly appreciate the opportunities here to educate the community on this ask, and many of you, again, have the ballot, and I will leave back some information and will be available for questions in my office, should any arise from the community. So thank you. I appreciate the time. Thank you, Rick. We may have some questions. Any of the board members have any questions for Rick? While he's here. I don't have a question, but I have a statement. As usual, whenever we run an election, it requires collaboration from a lot of people in the community, and one of those collaborators is the Bloomington Hills Schools. So every time I get a chance, I want to thank you on behalf of the township board and the township residents for always being so grateful.

  6. in the school district's physical assets. So I'm going to leave some documents behind, if I can, for the community to have more information. I've also had two public events in the past couple of weeks. I have a third one that will be virtually trying to accommodate all of the needs of our community, and that will be on next Thursday, October 23rd at noon. It's a virtual meeting to allow people to, I'll go through a more formal presentation and provide time for question and answer. So I certainly appreciate the opportunities here to educate the community on this ask, and many of you, again, have the ballot, and I will leave back some information and will be available for questions in my office, should any arise from the community. So thank you. I appreciate the time. Thank you, Rick. We may have some questions. Any of the board members have any questions for Rick? While he's here. I don't have a question, but I have a statement. As usual, whenever we run an election, it requires collaboration from a lot of people in the community, and one of those collaborators is the Bloomington Hills Schools. So every time I get a chance, I want to thank you on behalf of the township board and the township residents for always being so grateful. in hosting elections and working with us to make sure that the that the precincts are available to the residents of the township to come in and vote from 6 a.m. we start setting up until 9 o'clock at night and I know that there's the building staff and I've got things to do there their education related but they take their time out to really help us out so thanks a lot for being such a great host and helping to make elections possible well thank you and I appreciate that too and very much valuable our partnership that we have with the township so thank you all do we need to pass a motion no no okay just a presentation yeah thank you Rick good to see you appreciate it okay yeah good luck all right item number four one of the finest road advisory committees there there there is in the township right welcome Jess Sahls our chair of a road advisory committee and I know we have many of our members with us tonight here thank you very much well first of all I want to thank you for devoting this time for us to present

  7. in hosting elections and working with us to make sure that the that the precincts are available to the residents of the township to come in and vote from 6 a.m. we start setting up until 9 o'clock at night and I know that there's the building staff and I've got things to do there their education related but they take their time out to really help us out so thanks a lot for being such a great host and helping to make elections possible well thank you and I appreciate that too and very much valuable our partnership that we have with the township so thank you all do we need to pass a motion no no okay just a presentation yeah thank you Rick good to see you appreciate it okay yeah good luck all right item number four one of the finest road advisory committees there there there is in the township right welcome Jess Sahls our chair of a road advisory committee and I know we have many of our members with us tonight here thank you very much well first of all I want to thank you for devoting this time for us to present what we've been working on for the last six months and as you you'll see from the tonight's report it's a very very complex complex issue and it's also very you issue things are changing all the time especially now with the budget we don't even so you'll see from the report how fluid and how complex this issue is so mr solace by the way if you do want assistance to move the slides we can do it just say move slide would you sure thanks okay go to the next slide all right um if you remember last march can you move your microphone closer to you job like this yeah there you go yeah okay there we are digital connection now so sometimes it's better chance we have of making the connection okay um if you remember last last march uh you asked that a new citizens advisory committee be formed to look into the condition of local roads in bloomfield township which you all agree the local roads are abominable they're terrible um but also to look into the system that allows this to happen the reasons for these conditions and eventually some possible solutions that we could offer to to get back on track um next next slide so the first

  8. well first of all I want to thank you for devoting this time for us to present what we've been working on for the last six months and as you you'll see from the tonight's report it's a very very complex complex issue and it's also very you issue things are changing all the time especially now with the budget we don't even so you'll see from the report how fluid and how complex this issue is so mr solace by the way if you do want assistance to move the slides we can do it just say move slide would you sure thanks okay go to the next slide all right um if you remember last march can you move your microphone closer to you job like this yeah there you go yeah okay there we are digital connection now so sometimes it's better chance we have of making the connection okay um if you remember last last march uh you asked that a new citizens advisory committee be formed to look into the condition of local roads in bloomfield township which you all agree the local roads are abominable they're terrible um but also to look into the system that allows this to happen the reasons for these conditions and eventually some possible solutions that we could offer to to get back on track um next next slide so the first thing we did well first we had a committee of nine members were were uh it was formed and um except mr mccready and myself the the members of gary assarian only two are not here tonight everybody else is uh john servanak steve harris jeff hockman fred nader mindy richards and jay shaw um they've all every one of these folks they come from all over the township different regions all of them have never demonstrated great leadership, whether at the township level, the HOA level, businesses, or other organizational roles. The committee has been meeting almost every other week since last April, and tonight we are going to report on the progress to this point, just to this point. Next slide. The first thing we did was we created a mission statement to remind us every meeting who we are, what we're there to do, and to keep on track. The Road Advisory Committee of Bloomfield Township is a volunteer group committed to supporting the community by reviewing current road conditions, identifying problem areas, discussing practical solutions for improvement, and researching methods of promoting self autonomy of

  9. some possible solutions that we could offer to to get back on track um next next slide so the first thing we did well first we had a committee of nine members were were uh it was formed and um except mr mccready and myself the the members of gary assarian only two are not here tonight everybody else is uh john servanak steve harris jeff hockman fred nader mindy richards and jay shaw um they've all every one of these folks they come from all over the township different regions all of them have never demonstrated great leadership, whether at the township level, the HOA level, businesses, or other organizational roles. The committee has been meeting almost every other week since last April, and tonight we are going to report on the progress to this point, just to this point. Next slide. The first thing we did was we created a mission statement to remind us every meeting who we are, what we're there to do, and to keep on track. The Road Advisory Committee of Bloomfield Township is a volunteer group committed to supporting the community by reviewing current road conditions, identifying problem areas, discussing practical solutions for improvement, and researching methods of promoting self autonomy of local roads. The committee works to explore feasible repair and maintenance strategies, research legislative funding opportunities, and develop creative cost effective recommendations. Acting as an advisory role, they will assist the Board of Trustees in making informed decisions about road-related needs and priorities. And I just want to reiterate that, except for Mr. McCready, none of the board, these members on this committee are paid, nothing except the satisfaction of working for the community. The next. Under the heading of A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words, this is called a PACER, P-A-S-E-R report. And I would like to thank the support. It is prepared now, it's being prepared by Hubbell, Roth, and Clark for the Road Commission of Oakland County, and that's who publishes it. So this is not something that was prepared by the township or any of us. This comes directly from the county, who publishes and Hubbell, Roth, and Clark does the research. We'll have much more to discuss on all this later during the reports. But I wanted to introduce to this because this pretty much sums up where we are right now. And this report is published every three years, so this one, it says 2024.

  10. solutions for improvement, and researching methods of promoting self autonomy of local roads. The committee works to explore feasible repair and maintenance strategies, research legislative funding opportunities, and develop creative cost effective recommendations. Acting as an advisory role, they will assist the Board of Trustees in making informed decisions about road-related needs and priorities. And I just want to reiterate that, except for Mr. McCready, none of the board, these members on this committee are paid, nothing except the satisfaction of working for the community. The next. Under the heading of A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words, this is called a PACER, P-A-S-E-R report. And I would like to thank the support. It is prepared now, it's being prepared by Hubbell, Roth, and Clark for the Road Commission of Oakland County, and that's who publishes it. So this is not something that was prepared by the township or any of us. This comes directly from the county, who publishes and Hubbell, Roth, and Clark does the research. We'll have much more to discuss on all this later during the reports. But I wanted to introduce to this because this pretty much sums up where we are right now. And this report is published every three years, so this one, it says 2024. I'm not sure when the documentation was gotten or how old it is. It's changed since then, and it's going to change, but this is the most recent one we have. The way this is, is on this report, these are all, by the way, these are the local roads. When we say local, what our committee says is local, are subdivision roads. The roads that your driveway empties out into, the roads you take a walk on, you ride your bike, whatever. Those are the local roads. So what this shows here is that all the green roads, the green lines, this is every road in the township, every local road. All the green ones are in good condition, all the yellow ones are fair, and all the red ones are in poor condition, needing to be replaced. So there's a lot more to be talked about this later, but there's two big takeaways. from this one picture number one is look at all the red all those roads need to be replaced now again some of them may have been improved for instance bluefield village they had a lot of work So there's anything else that I've learned about this, technology that I at the table will done at great expense to every each homeowner but some of those have been been repaired however some get through to is already a medium-atه increasingly agencies and new samurai, the European country.

  11. And this report is published every three years, so this one, it says 2024. I'm not sure when the documentation was gotten or how old it is. It's changed since then, and it's going to change, but this is the most recent one we have. The way this is, is on this report, these are all, by the way, these are the local roads. When we say local, what our committee says is local, are subdivision roads. The roads that your driveway empties out into, the roads you take a walk on, you ride your bike, whatever. Those are the local roads. So what this shows here is that all the green roads, the green lines, this is every road in the township, every local road. All the green ones are in good condition, all the yellow ones are fair, and all the red ones are in poor condition, needing to be replaced. So there's a lot more to be talked about this later, but there's two big takeaways. from this one picture number one is look at all the red all those roads need to be replaced now again some of them may have been improved for instance bluefield village they had a lot of work So there's anything else that I've learned about this, technology that I at the table will done at great expense to every each homeowner but some of those have been been repaired however some get through to is already a medium-atه increasingly agencies and new samurai, the European country. of the yellow roads that are in there on yellow they're now probably some of them will probably So you can see Bord standings from Broadway. fall into the red we have no documentation on that this is the report we have that's all we've I'm involved in those neighbourhoods with the restaurants, everyone. Most of them are in the �streak today, according to variety, and many different places. Here's what I thought. Go away. got right now we'll get later ones as they come out um the second the second thing that comes out of these is that every one of these roads everyone is owned by the county bloomfield township has no ownership and has no authority over any of these roads now granted the police department our police department gives tickets or whatever but anything any we have no authority to do anything on any of these roads so and and and the position that the county has been taken all these years has been these are your roads you drive on them if you want to fix you pay for them well can you imagine i have a i have a commercial building of a tenant in that commercial building and imagine if you came to me and said mr sauls your roof is leaking on the building and i say well you're using it you fix it how long do you think that would last well that's that's basically what the township has been sorry the county has been telling us but then after they tell us that you

  12. done at great expense to every each homeowner but some of those have been been repaired however some get through to is already a medium-atه increasingly agencies and new samurai, the European country. of the yellow roads that are in there on yellow they're now probably some of them will probably So you can see Bord standings from Broadway. fall into the red we have no documentation on that this is the report we have that's all we've I'm involved in those neighbourhoods with the restaurants, everyone. Most of them are in the �streak today, according to variety, and many different places. Here's what I thought. Go away. got right now we'll get later ones as they come out um the second the second thing that comes out of these is that every one of these roads everyone is owned by the county bloomfield township has no ownership and has no authority over any of these roads now granted the police department our police department gives tickets or whatever but anything any we have no authority to do anything on any of these roads so and and and the position that the county has been taken all these years has been these are your roads you drive on them if you want to fix you pay for them well can you imagine i have a i have a commercial building of a tenant in that commercial building and imagine if you came to me and said mr sauls your roof is leaking on the building and i say well you're using it you fix it how long do you think that would last well that's that's basically what the township has been sorry the county has been telling us but then after they tell us that you If we want to propose any sort of traffic mitigation, or traffic calming, or any close off any streets to stop cut through traffic. Well, the county then says, no, these are public roads. They're open to the entire community. Everybody uses them. You can't do that. Okay, which is it? More on that later. Next slide. So what we did was, instead of going on the internet to look for all the statistics and figures we want, knowing, of course, that everything on the internet is absolutely true and factual, we decided that we wanted to go to primary sources. So we started right here in Bloomfield Township with Noah Mahalski, our Director of Public Works. And from there, we went to the Road Commission for Oakland County. Then we had finance from the township. And then we went to other places. We had MDOT. We went to, we had our engineering people. We even went outside to other communities that had the same problem that had been working on it. Before we got started, so that maybe we wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel, let's see what they did. So we got them to come and talk to us. And we got our state representative, Donny Steele, to come and talk to us and

  13. If we want to propose any sort of traffic mitigation, or traffic calming, or any close off any streets to stop cut through traffic. Well, the county then says, no, these are public roads. They're open to the entire community. Everybody uses them. You can't do that. Okay, which is it? More on that later. Next slide. So what we did was, instead of going on the internet to look for all the statistics and figures we want, knowing, of course, that everything on the internet is absolutely true and factual, we decided that we wanted to go to primary sources. So we started right here in Bloomfield Township with Noah Mahalski, our Director of Public Works. And from there, we went to the Road Commission for Oakland County. Then we had finance from the township. And then we went to other places. We had MDOT. We went to, we had our engineering people. We even went outside to other communities that had the same problem that had been working on it. Before we got started, so that maybe we wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel, let's see what they did. So we got them to come and talk to us. And we got our state representative, Donny Steele, to come and talk to us and tell us about what's going on in Lansing. So what we did is we divided into four subcommittees. We have the current situation in Bloomfield Township. Don't go, no, don't go anywhere. further the current situation Bloomfield Township the current situation county and state the current situation financial and in the current situation the township roads and financing so what we have here tonight we've broken into four subcommittees and each one is going to give do a presentation on on this but what I want to tell you is that what this is this is just we just fact find found this is where we are just fact-finding there's a a very good quote from Winston Churchill that really sums up where we are here and he said this is not the end it's not the beginning of the end but it's the end of the beginning so we're at that point right now so I would say that if anybody's here or watching online that thinks we're gonna come up with these wonderful solutions tonight and here's some solutions to this problem you'll be sorely disappointed because there are none not yet this is simply fact-finding so what we'd like to do is have each one of the subcommittees report and then have

  14. And we got our state representative, Donny Steele, to come and talk to us and tell us about what's going on in Lansing. So what we did is we divided into four subcommittees. We have the current situation in Bloomfield Township. Don't go, no, don't go anywhere. further the current situation Bloomfield Township the current situation county and state the current situation financial and in the current situation the township roads and financing so what we have here tonight we've broken into four subcommittees and each one is going to give do a presentation on on this but what I want to tell you is that what this is this is just we just fact find found this is where we are just fact-finding there's a a very good quote from Winston Churchill that really sums up where we are here and he said this is not the end it's not the beginning of the end but it's the end of the beginning so we're at that point right now so I would say that if anybody's here or watching online that thinks we're gonna come up with these wonderful solutions tonight and here's some solutions to this problem you'll be sorely disappointed because there are none not yet this is simply fact-finding so what we'd like to do is have each one of the subcommittees report and then have you folks on the board if you have any questions that is after each section rather wait till the end to do all of it do each section at a time so with that I'm going to introduce the first one current situation in the township John Cervanac thank you Jeff first of all good evening to the members of the board and the interested residents my name is John Cervanac I've been a township resident for over 23 years. I've been a computer scientist, a technical support manager, and a problem solver for over 46 years. I serve on the board of the Hampton Hills Homeowners Association as vice president. And I invited Supervisor McCready shortly after his election to one of our HOA meetings to meet some of his constituents as well as talk about what his plans were for our township. But one of his major concerns were that of the condition of the roads. He was in the process of forming an advisory committee to study the current situation, investigate options, and to address the issues to provide recommendations for solutions. I immediately accepted the opportunity to be on that committee and so here I am.

  15. what we'd like to do is have each one of the subcommittees report and then have you folks on the board if you have any questions that is after each section rather wait till the end to do all of it do each section at a time so with that I'm going to introduce the first one current situation in the township John Cervanac thank you Jeff first of all good evening to the members of the board and the interested residents my name is John Cervanac I've been a township resident for over 23 years. I've been a computer scientist, a technical support manager, and a problem solver for over 46 years. I serve on the board of the Hampton Hills Homeowners Association as vice president. And I invited Supervisor McCready shortly after his election to one of our HOA meetings to meet some of his constituents as well as talk about what his plans were for our township. But one of his major concerns were that of the condition of the roads. He was in the process of forming an advisory committee to study the current situation, investigate options, and to address the issues to provide recommendations for solutions. I immediately accepted the opportunity to be on that committee and so here I am. First step in problem solving is to fully understand the problem. As you saw earlier over the past several months we brought in experts from the township, other municipalities, and from the county and state to hear about their roles, what they have done, and the challenges we have. So we're ready to, we are not ready to recommend any solutions, but with that let me describe the problems. Next slide please. So as Jeff mentioned, there's this whole situation of road evaluation that's based on this thing called PACER. The transportation. The transportation. The transportation. Asset Management Council of Michigan coordinates over a hundred teams of trained people to assess the condition of the road statewide and this process is done every three years so the data that you see is one of the charts or diagrams that Jeff had brought up is during that three year period you may see differences in your areas obviously if there's been improvements or in some cases if roadways have gotten worse but they're all based on using this PACER rating which is a scale of one meaning failed up to ten being good and listed in that chart there are also recommended treatments by which how to bring it up to an excellent condition so the charts that you see are going to be associated with good fair or poor so it groups the bottom four categories of the PACER ratings into

  16. I immediately accepted the opportunity to be on that committee and so here I am. First step in problem solving is to fully understand the problem. As you saw earlier over the past several months we brought in experts from the township, other municipalities, and from the county and state to hear about their roles, what they have done, and the challenges we have. So we're ready to, we are not ready to recommend any solutions, but with that let me describe the problems. Next slide please. So as Jeff mentioned, there's this whole situation of road evaluation that's based on this thing called PACER. The transportation. The transportation. The transportation. Asset Management Council of Michigan coordinates over a hundred teams of trained people to assess the condition of the road statewide and this process is done every three years so the data that you see is one of the charts or diagrams that Jeff had brought up is during that three year period you may see differences in your areas obviously if there's been improvements or in some cases if roadways have gotten worse but they're all based on using this PACER rating which is a scale of one meaning failed up to ten being good and listed in that chart there are also recommended treatments by which how to bring it up to an excellent condition so the charts that you see are going to be associated with good fair or poor so it groups the bottom four categories of the PACER ratings into poor which will show up in red on the roadways the next three would be rated as fair and the top three are rated as good next slide please so first of all who's responsible for the conditions of the roadways Michigan Department of Transportation's responsibility is with major highways which are the U.S. highways the ones that start with a U like U.S. 24 telegraph the interstate roads we're all familiar with I-75 I-696 the M roads which are things like M1 or Woodward Avenue for instance we're all familiar with the U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U So the Michigan Department of Transportation is responsible for only those highways. As far as we're concerned for Oakland County, the Road Commission for Oakland County is responsible for the other main roads in Oakland County, as well as the subdivision streets in Oakland County's townships only.

  17. they're all based on using this PACER rating which is a scale of one meaning failed up to ten being good and listed in that chart there are also recommended treatments by which how to bring it up to an excellent condition so the charts that you see are going to be associated with good fair or poor so it groups the bottom four categories of the PACER ratings into poor which will show up in red on the roadways the next three would be rated as fair and the top three are rated as good next slide please so first of all who's responsible for the conditions of the roadways Michigan Department of Transportation's responsibility is with major highways which are the U.S. highways the ones that start with a U like U.S. 24 telegraph the interstate roads we're all familiar with I-75 I-696 the M roads which are things like M1 or Woodward Avenue for instance we're all familiar with the U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U like U So the Michigan Department of Transportation is responsible for only those highways. As far as we're concerned for Oakland County, the Road Commission for Oakland County is responsible for the other main roads in Oakland County, as well as the subdivision streets in Oakland County's townships only. If it's a city or a village, the city or the village is responsible for those. Next slide, please. So obviously road maintenance takes money. So where does Road Commission of Oakland County, who is responsible for our subdivision roads, get its money? Well, main roads are partially funded by federal and state aid, and the remainder of that is with their budget. For subdivision streets, there specifically is no federal or state aid, only the county budget. And you'll hear more about this Public Act 51, which is the law that was passed that imposes the restrictions on it, unless it's a city or a village. So with no financial aid for subdivision streets, obviously the improvements have to come from somewhere, and they come from something called a special assessment district or SAD. Next slide, please. So what's a special assessment district? It's a designated area where a majority of the property owners agree to allow a governmental agency to levy a special property tax in exchange for a specific service, such as the paving or repaving a residential street. Next slide, please. norms of KLOOS scars window here. Number 2.

  18. as well as the subdivision streets in Oakland County's townships only. If it's a city or a village, the city or the village is responsible for those. Next slide, please. So obviously road maintenance takes money. So where does Road Commission of Oakland County, who is responsible for our subdivision roads, get its money? Well, main roads are partially funded by federal and state aid, and the remainder of that is with their budget. For subdivision streets, there specifically is no federal or state aid, only the county budget. And you'll hear more about this Public Act 51, which is the law that was passed that imposes the restrictions on it, unless it's a city or a village. So with no financial aid for subdivision streets, obviously the improvements have to come from somewhere, and they come from something called a special assessment district or SAD. Next slide, please. So what's a special assessment district? It's a designated area where a majority of the property owners agree to allow a governmental agency to levy a special property tax in exchange for a specific service, such as the paving or repaving a residential street. Next slide, please. norms of KLOOS scars window here. Number 2. So that governmental agency agrees to pay for the cost of the service up front, and then the property owners agree to pay back their share over a period of years in the form of a special property tax. And some of the residents may be experiencing this ad now, and we'll go into details of those later. Next slide, please. So this is a PACER diagram of the current conditions of the main roads in Oakland County. So you can see, once again, the good roads in the top three categories are rated green, so several of them are green. The next level of ratings are rated fair, and so a majority of our things are in fair condition. And then there's a few of them that are marked in red. And once again, those are all the responsibility of the road commission for Oakland County, and they do get financial aid to maintain those roads. Next slide, please. So this is another look at the township roads that are in the subdivisions where there is no financial aid. And obviously, as Jeff had mentioned before, the majority of them are in red, which are desperately in need of repair,

  19. So that governmental agency agrees to pay for the cost of the service up front, and then the property owners agree to pay back their share over a period of years in the form of a special property tax. And some of the residents may be experiencing this ad now, and we'll go into details of those later. Next slide, please. So this is a PACER diagram of the current conditions of the main roads in Oakland County. So you can see, once again, the good roads in the top three categories are rated green, so several of them are green. The next level of ratings are rated fair, and so a majority of our things are in fair condition. And then there's a few of them that are marked in red. And once again, those are all the responsibility of the road commission for Oakland County, and they do get financial aid to maintain those roads. Next slide, please. So this is another look at the township roads that are in the subdivisions where there is no financial aid. And obviously, as Jeff had mentioned before, the majority of them are in red, which are desperately in need of repair, which I don't need to tell residents that or even the board that. You're probably all familiar with that. And it's not just a problem with our township. Next slide, please. If you look at all of Oakland County for the roadways that are not maintained by MDOT, nor have any federal or state funding, in other words, local roads, the majority of those are also in poor condition with a bunch of sprinkled through fair ones and you can barely find any green ones in there at all. So obviously it's a problem, not with Bloomfield Township, but with most of the county. In fact, if you bring up a chart, which I didn't bring, of all of southeastern Michigan, it seems to mimic the same sort of symptoms. Next slide, please. So Bloomfield Township has their own road division. It's responsible for 213 miles of subdivision streets, which include 37 miles of unpaid gravel roads. So that means we can maintain those road surfaces, but we can't replace or reconstruct those surfaces. So they do the gravel replacement on the gravel roads. Obviously during the wintertime, we've got the snow plows and the salt laying out there.

  20. And obviously, as Jeff had mentioned before, the majority of them are in red, which are desperately in need of repair, which I don't need to tell residents that or even the board that. You're probably all familiar with that. And it's not just a problem with our township. Next slide, please. If you look at all of Oakland County for the roadways that are not maintained by MDOT, nor have any federal or state funding, in other words, local roads, the majority of those are also in poor condition with a bunch of sprinkled through fair ones and you can barely find any green ones in there at all. So obviously it's a problem, not with Bloomfield Township, but with most of the county. In fact, if you bring up a chart, which I didn't bring, of all of southeastern Michigan, it seems to mimic the same sort of symptoms. Next slide, please. So Bloomfield Township has their own road division. It's responsible for 213 miles of subdivision streets, which include 37 miles of unpaid gravel roads. So that means we can maintain those road surfaces, but we can't replace or reconstruct those surfaces. So they do the gravel replacement on the gravel roads. Obviously during the wintertime, we've got the snow plows and the salt laying out there. We do do, or the department does do asphalt patching in areas, and then they also do what's called an asphalt overlay for minor repairs. It's not a reconstruction of the asphalt roads, but it's a thin layer of asphalt that does address some of the issues, but if you have deep potholes in it, those don't get fixed at all. That does require replacement. As Jeff mentioned, The township doesn't have ownership or jurisdiction over the roads. In other words, if you want a speed limit change, you can't do that. If you want to put signage up, you can't do that. If in your subdivision you're concerned that cars that are going through at a high rate of speed and you want speed humps, you have to deal with the road commission for Oakland County on that. You can't deal with the township because they have no jurisdiction over the local roads. And again, the township is not responsible for repaving or replacing any of the roads. Next slide, please. So in summary, the subdivision streets in Bloomfield Township are mostly rated as poor, obviously. And then currently the only option for those that recognize the poor condition of the street

  21. So they do the gravel replacement on the gravel roads. Obviously during the wintertime, we've got the snow plows and the salt laying out there. We do do, or the department does do asphalt patching in areas, and then they also do what's called an asphalt overlay for minor repairs. It's not a reconstruction of the asphalt roads, but it's a thin layer of asphalt that does address some of the issues, but if you have deep potholes in it, those don't get fixed at all. That does require replacement. As Jeff mentioned, The township doesn't have ownership or jurisdiction over the roads. In other words, if you want a speed limit change, you can't do that. If you want to put signage up, you can't do that. If in your subdivision you're concerned that cars that are going through at a high rate of speed and you want speed humps, you have to deal with the road commission for Oakland County on that. You can't deal with the township because they have no jurisdiction over the local roads. And again, the township is not responsible for repaving or replacing any of the roads. Next slide, please. So in summary, the subdivision streets in Bloomfield Township are mostly rated as poor, obviously. And then currently the only option for those that recognize the poor condition of the street is to pay for it themselves through an SAD process. Next slide, please. So what does that mean? Property owners barely cost some upwards of $60,000 per lot to have the road repaved in front of your house. Doesn't seem to make any sense because residents are paying to replace roads that they don't own at all. It becomes a debt to your property. It's a significant financial burden. And it certainly isn't a sustainable solution to be told that you have to pay for having stuff fixed in front of your house that you don't even own. Next slide, please. So on the other side, you probably realize... that most subdivisions in Bluefield Township don't have sidewalks, which means that the roadways are carrying pedestrian traffic, bicyclists, as well as the motor vehicle traffic. And so the poor road conditions that we may have present themselves as a safety issue for those types of people on the road. The interesting thing about it is the Road Commission rates when to do stuff on roadways based on safety issues. It's not how bad stuff is, but how unsafe it is.

  22. And then currently the only option for those that recognize the poor condition of the street is to pay for it themselves through an SAD process. Next slide, please. So what does that mean? Property owners barely cost some upwards of $60,000 per lot to have the road repaved in front of your house. Doesn't seem to make any sense because residents are paying to replace roads that they don't own at all. It becomes a debt to your property. It's a significant financial burden. And it certainly isn't a sustainable solution to be told that you have to pay for having stuff fixed in front of your house that you don't even own. Next slide, please. So on the other side, you probably realize... that most subdivisions in Bluefield Township don't have sidewalks, which means that the roadways are carrying pedestrian traffic, bicyclists, as well as the motor vehicle traffic. And so the poor road conditions that we may have present themselves as a safety issue for those types of people on the road. The interesting thing about it is the Road Commission rates when to do stuff on roadways based on safety issues. It's not how bad stuff is, but how unsafe it is. So the fact that we're mixing pedestrian traffic and bicycle traffic and vehicular traffic should be more motivation for the Road Commission of Oakland County to pay attention to it. They just need money, obviously. Are there any questions from the board? Okay. Thank you, John. I do have two questions. The date on your map and the date on are different, and they're offset by over a year. Correct. I downloaded it in the September date, but the data in the database is based on the assessment that's made every three years. That assessment that's in the database for SEMCOG is from 2024. So if roads may have been improved since then, roads may have gotten worse, but if you were to go and look at... What the data is that was collected from the actual, over hundreds of groups that had gone out, it's frozen in time until they do the next three year cycle. And based on the Oakland County map, it doesn't appear that the cities and villages are doing any better than the townships.

  23. It's not how bad stuff is, but how unsafe it is. So the fact that we're mixing pedestrian traffic and bicycle traffic and vehicular traffic should be more motivation for the Road Commission of Oakland County to pay attention to it. They just need money, obviously. Are there any questions from the board? Okay. Thank you, John. I do have two questions. The date on your map and the date on are different, and they're offset by over a year. Correct. I downloaded it in the September date, but the data in the database is based on the assessment that's made every three years. That assessment that's in the database for SEMCOG is from 2024. So if roads may have been improved since then, roads may have gotten worse, but if you were to go and look at... What the data is that was collected from the actual, over hundreds of groups that had gone out, it's frozen in time until they do the next three year cycle. And based on the Oakland County map, it doesn't appear that the cities and villages are doing any better than the townships. I've left out the cities and the villages because I wanted to focus only on the issue that the road commission doesn't get money for townships and for their local roads. The local roads for townships and villages are managed by the city itself, and they do get PA 51 money. I'm just focusing on what the road commission can do for us with or without the funding, as well as all of Oakland County like that. Pontiac's all red on your map. So that's a city. That's, you know, which is kind of concerning. If the cities are removed, that there should be nothing there, or if it's properly being managed because they have the additional funds, then it should be green. So that's a concern. And you can even look at Bloomfield Hills. Again, is Bloomfield Hills city green or red? So it's just kind of confusing that if there's not...

  24. are doing any better than the townships. I've left out the cities and the villages because I wanted to focus only on the issue that the road commission doesn't get money for townships and for their local roads. The local roads for townships and villages are managed by the city itself, and they do get PA 51 money. I'm just focusing on what the road commission can do for us with or without the funding, as well as all of Oakland County like that. Pontiac's all red on your map. So that's a city. That's, you know, which is kind of concerning. If the cities are removed, that there should be nothing there, or if it's properly being managed because they have the additional funds, then it should be green. So that's a concern. And you can even look at Bloomfield Hills. Again, is Bloomfield Hills city green or red? So it's just kind of confusing that if there's not... enough road money in uh to fund the city of pontiac how would we have access to additional funds if we were a village or if correct no yeah same concern i i did because i focused on there's a switch in simcog that says are they federally funded or not and that was the diagram was generated by saying it's not funded which means they don't get pa51 funds i had the same concern mark when i looked at rochester hills where i used to live because the street i had lived on also was reported out there and i would have assumed it was omitted from the chart but i'm getting the data from simcog okay i understand your concern any other questions thank you all right next section for the county and state portion dr gary asarian um thank you good evening um thank you for uh asking me to to speak and being part of the organization that jeff's put together which it it's been very eye-opening um and important that we actually establish why we are where we are and before we get into solutions so um i'm going to

  25. enough road money in uh to fund the city of pontiac how would we have access to additional funds if we were a village or if correct no yeah same concern i i did because i focused on there's a switch in simcog that says are they federally funded or not and that was the diagram was generated by saying it's not funded which means they don't get pa51 funds i had the same concern mark when i looked at rochester hills where i used to live because the street i had lived on also was reported out there and i would have assumed it was omitted from the chart but i'm getting the data from simcog okay i understand your concern any other questions thank you all right next section for the county and state portion dr gary asarian um thank you good evening um thank you for uh asking me to to speak and being part of the organization that jeff's put together which it it's been very eye-opening um and important that we actually establish why we are where we are and before we get into solutions so um i'm going to probably um reiterate some of the things that you just heard but it's important that we emphasize them and maybe um you You get a better handle on sort of what we have to look at before. I'm Gary Asarian. I'm a Retired pathologist informatics person. I've lived in Bloomfield Township since 88 and been on various Committees with through the HOA in the area and did the pancake supper and all sorts of things So I've been around for a while And I appreciate the opportunity to participate in this project because I am a Person who tried to get a sad bill through my subdivision and it failed so I kind of know that the Goods and the bads of the whole process so Next slide We all hit we're all here because of Public Act 51 which was Created in 1951 and it's established the Michigan Transportation Fund The fees were based on motor vehicle registrations and fuel tax And it was allocated to provide funding for roads and road maintenance

  26. actually establish why we are where we are and before we get into solutions so um i'm going to probably um reiterate some of the things that you just heard but it's important that we emphasize them and maybe um you You get a better handle on sort of what we have to look at before. I'm Gary Asarian. I'm a Retired pathologist informatics person. I've lived in Bloomfield Township since 88 and been on various Committees with through the HOA in the area and did the pancake supper and all sorts of things So I've been around for a while And I appreciate the opportunity to participate in this project because I am a Person who tried to get a sad bill through my subdivision and it failed so I kind of know that the Goods and the bads of the whole process so Next slide We all hit we're all here because of Public Act 51 which was Created in 1951 and it's established the Michigan Transportation Fund The fees were based on motor vehicle registrations and fuel tax And it was allocated to provide funding for roads and road maintenance To date there are over 300 amendments to the Public Act 51 It's very difficult to wade through all the different rules and regulations and restrictions that evolve Into it and we'll get into some specific parts of it which really put Townships at a in a bad way the current funding has really dried up Turned up and what time we Time we a robust system here in michigan we were the top 10 uh state in the country as far as road quality 你 你 in the 50s and 60s and now i think we're in the bottom 10 of road quality because we've kind of 你 neglected our roads politicians have made a career out of saying to fix the roads or not fix the 我 你 你 你 你 roads and if you look at what we've done is it's been pretty feeble the need remains high the solutions are diverse um and it's caused local governments news of john mentioned to um direct various directions of uh self uh funding and creating of these special assessment districts which have so all sorts of issues and problems of um associated with them thank next slide um

  27. And it was allocated to provide funding for roads and road maintenance To date there are over 300 amendments to the Public Act 51 It's very difficult to wade through all the different rules and regulations and restrictions that evolve Into it and we'll get into some specific parts of it which really put Townships at a in a bad way the current funding has really dried up Turned up and what time we Time we a robust system here in michigan we were the top 10 uh state in the country as far as road quality 你 你 in the 50s and 60s and now i think we're in the bottom 10 of road quality because we've kind of 你 neglected our roads politicians have made a career out of saying to fix the roads or not fix the 我 你 你 你 你 roads and if you look at what we've done is it's been pretty feeble the need remains high the solutions are diverse um and it's caused local governments news of john mentioned to um direct various directions of uh self uh funding and creating of these special assessment districts which have so all sorts of issues and problems of um associated with them thank next slide um within the uh the uh why is the issue of quality controlled i mean the road quality still remain um it's basically the allocation formula is is unbalanced and it's not proper um as far as you know i'm concerned and the committee is concerned sparsely populated areas and rural counties receive more funding per resident even though dense urban areas have the highest share of funding so thus there's a need to evaluate the efficiencies of of the funding system and and how the the unbalance can be rebalanced the michigan department of transportation you is primarily responsible for maintaining, constructing, and improving the trunk line highways. And they receive all their funding from the Michigan Transportation Fund. Next. The county road commissions, there's a jurisdiction, maintenance, and construction. The jurisdiction for the roads commission, they're responsible for roads in the township that's at the county level. And maintenance and construction, the commissions are responsible for maintaining, constructing these roads.

  28. which have so all sorts of issues and problems of um associated with them thank next slide um within the uh the uh why is the issue of quality controlled i mean the road quality still remain um it's basically the allocation formula is is unbalanced and it's not proper um as far as you know i'm concerned and the committee is concerned sparsely populated areas and rural counties receive more funding per resident even though dense urban areas have the highest share of funding so thus there's a need to evaluate the efficiencies of of the funding system and and how the the unbalance can be rebalanced the michigan department of transportation you is primarily responsible for maintaining, constructing, and improving the trunk line highways. And they receive all their funding from the Michigan Transportation Fund. Next. The county road commissions, there's a jurisdiction, maintenance, and construction. The jurisdiction for the roads commission, they're responsible for roads in the township that's at the county level. And maintenance and construction, the commissions are responsible for maintaining, constructing these roads. And in Public Act 51, however, the system does not include funding for townships. Why is this important? Because townships are governed differently than other entities or government institutions in cities and village institutions, where we are kind of tapped out at a millage rate, I think is at 10. And if we were a different sort of a city charter, you could have a mill rate up to 20. So it's just a consideration to take into mind that some of these things you're kind of caught in like a Charlotte's Web. Next one. Responsibilities are the key players. Sorry, I have to keep using my reading glasses here. The road commission, Thanks and question. Well, hypothetically, it's been two daysqu nu-murist but the option has been 20,000 feet to 20. We have to be looked at 20 to 20,000 feet sayak from a prillion. Well, скоро will be!! They maintain the roads and I think to a person, people would say that they do a very good job on a daily basis, especially in the winter. It's hard to get to say anything bad about the salting and the snow removal and some of the other things.

  29. And maintenance and construction, the commissions are responsible for maintaining, constructing these roads. And in Public Act 51, however, the system does not include funding for townships. Why is this important? Because townships are governed differently than other entities or government institutions in cities and village institutions, where we are kind of tapped out at a millage rate, I think is at 10. And if we were a different sort of a city charter, you could have a mill rate up to 20. So it's just a consideration to take into mind that some of these things you're kind of caught in like a Charlotte's Web. Next one. Responsibilities are the key players. Sorry, I have to keep using my reading glasses here. The road commission, Thanks and question. Well, hypothetically, it's been two daysqu nu-murist but the option has been 20,000 feet to 20. We have to be looked at 20 to 20,000 feet sayak from a prillion. Well, скоро will be!! They maintain the roads and I think to a person, people would say that they do a very good job on a daily basis, especially in the winter. It's hard to get to say anything bad about the salting and the snow removal and some of the other things. And then the road commission's responsible for major, the roads and the MDOT handles all the trunk lines and those sorts of things, which I think we're all aware of. Next slide. In Bloomfield Township, the local roads are deteriorating, as was mentioned. All you have to do is take a look around. The residents report roads are getting bigger and bigger potholes, patching has become a problem, it's ongoing, people call when the people on bikes have issues and now they have these scooters that you have to go along and we all have to remember that our township doesn't require sidewalks to be built for new construction and so the roads are really the most important means of not only for the transportation of the cars but the pedestrian and the playing areas for the kids. But to the chagrin of the residents, the maintenance programs have been non-existent and so they've kind of gone out to seek their own remedies. I think that's a great question. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah.

  30. and the snow removal and some of the other things. And then the road commission's responsible for major, the roads and the MDOT handles all the trunk lines and those sorts of things, which I think we're all aware of. Next slide. In Bloomfield Township, the local roads are deteriorating, as was mentioned. All you have to do is take a look around. The residents report roads are getting bigger and bigger potholes, patching has become a problem, it's ongoing, people call when the people on bikes have issues and now they have these scooters that you have to go along and we all have to remember that our township doesn't require sidewalks to be built for new construction and so the roads are really the most important means of not only for the transportation of the cars but the pedestrian and the playing areas for the kids. But to the chagrin of the residents, the maintenance programs have been non-existent and so they've kind of gone out to seek their own remedies. I think that's a great question. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. The degree of neglect, as John showed, is pretty universal within the townships. And that's pretty much all I have to say about that, except for the thing that it's not just an eyesore or your tires going. We actually had a young child fall off their bike and break their arm basically because of the roads within the last six or eight months. And when you see the kids coming down, it's really a safety issue that we're all facing, and something bad will happen, and then everyone will just look at each other and say, geez, what happened? Anyway, that's why I'm kind of proud to be on the group. I think the group is doing a pretty comprehensive job so that you can do your job. And if anyone has any questions, I'd be glad to answer them. Thanks, Gary. Any questions for Gary? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. You want me to go through the financing? That's you. Okay. I guess I'm up. Okay. Thank you. All right. Go to the next slide, Em. Yeah. Sure. Okay. So this is what our revenue comes in at for our road funding.

  31. The degree of neglect, as John showed, is pretty universal within the townships. And that's pretty much all I have to say about that, except for the thing that it's not just an eyesore or your tires going. We actually had a young child fall off their bike and break their arm basically because of the roads within the last six or eight months. And when you see the kids coming down, it's really a safety issue that we're all facing, and something bad will happen, and then everyone will just look at each other and say, geez, what happened? Anyway, that's why I'm kind of proud to be on the group. I think the group is doing a pretty comprehensive job so that you can do your job. And if anyone has any questions, I'd be glad to answer them. Thanks, Gary. Any questions for Gary? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. You want me to go through the financing? That's you. Okay. I guess I'm up. Okay. Thank you. All right. Go to the next slide, Em. Yeah. Sure. Okay. So this is what our revenue comes in at for our road funding. It's through taxes and assessments, road fund repayments from the county, and transfers in. Next slide, Amber. So the funding road mills for general fund and RCO. So. So, let's just go ahead and start doing a new video video. see reimbursement state road bloomfield township does not receive any state funding specifically for roads it all comes from the road commission of oakland county we do have a maintenance agreement with the road commission we get reimbursed about eight hundred thousand dollars a year annually and it increases at a rate of two percent township road roads revenue we receive 3.4 million dollars we transfer in from the general fund which was 1.9 million that's the highest we've ever had it this year most years were under a million dollars however with the new funding that just was passed the state budget we will lose some funding out of our constitutional funding we receive constitutional and statutory funding from the state of michigan our constitutional funding i believe michael was what about four four and a hundred some thousand four four hundred twenty seven thousand dollars right and our statutory funding was in the eighty thousand dollar range with the removal of the

  32. So this is what our revenue comes in at for our road funding. It's through taxes and assessments, road fund repayments from the county, and transfers in. Next slide, Amber. So the funding road mills for general fund and RCO. So. So, let's just go ahead and start doing a new video video. see reimbursement state road bloomfield township does not receive any state funding specifically for roads it all comes from the road commission of oakland county we do have a maintenance agreement with the road commission we get reimbursed about eight hundred thousand dollars a year annually and it increases at a rate of two percent township road roads revenue we receive 3.4 million dollars we transfer in from the general fund which was 1.9 million that's the highest we've ever had it this year most years were under a million dollars however with the new funding that just was passed the state budget we will lose some funding out of our constitutional funding we receive constitutional and statutory funding from the state of michigan our constitutional funding i believe michael was what about four four and a hundred some thousand four four hundred twenty seven thousand dollars right and our statutory funding was in the eighty thousand dollar range with the removal of the constitutional funding that that has just occurred in the new budget we estimate we'll be receiving three hundred thousand dollars or now less and this is money we did put towards roads um and then the three main funding sources our millage transfers in from from our general fund the road commission uh which is 1.5 million of contracted paving 200 000 of patch troisième two hundred thousand dollars for salt on local roads and then we also have in there our personnel for retiree costs as well it's a very expensive now to pay repave a road as we're finding out through this budget that we have we're able to fix and repair not replace but fix and repair about two miles of roads a year in the township where we have over 200 miles of roads so it's it's not even a bandage of what it takes and now with the change in the funding model that was just introduced by the state which we're still learning about we hope to receive more support from the Road Commission but we don't know exactly what that looks like it's all under the microscope and we'll learn

  33. right and our statutory funding was in the eighty thousand dollar range with the removal of the constitutional funding that that has just occurred in the new budget we estimate we'll be receiving three hundred thousand dollars or now less and this is money we did put towards roads um and then the three main funding sources our millage transfers in from from our general fund the road commission uh which is 1.5 million of contracted paving 200 000 of patch troisième two hundred thousand dollars for salt on local roads and then we also have in there our personnel for retiree costs as well it's a very expensive now to pay repave a road as we're finding out through this budget that we have we're able to fix and repair not replace but fix and repair about two miles of roads a year in the township where we have over 200 miles of roads so it's it's not even a bandage of what it takes and now with the change in the funding model that was just introduced by the state which we're still learning about we hope to receive more support from the Road Commission but we don't know exactly what that looks like it's all under the microscope and we'll learn over the next month or so exactly what will be coming our way is that is there another I think that's it isn't it Amber oh here we go okay this is our millage schedule if you if you look at it the following of the road and that's highlighted there and it comes down to our millage is at nine point about nine point nine six out of ten mills possible so we're handicapped on being able to raise a millage even if we could pass a millage in our township it'd be very difficult because we have over 20 special assessment districts right now which means they're paying why would they vote for a millage we have so many dirt roads that aren't going to get paved they wouldn't vote for a millage and we also have many private communities and that take care of their own roads they would so we're challenged even if we tried to pass a millage in five years when we start getting some of our bonds and millages off our books starting in 2030 and then 2032 to get something passed when we're capped like this is that another one okay millages may be used to fund debt but for the most voted to approve residents campus construction bonds state statute says that townships are limited to 10 10 mills

  34. exactly what that looks like it's all under the microscope and we'll learn over the next month or so exactly what will be coming our way is that is there another I think that's it isn't it Amber oh here we go okay this is our millage schedule if you if you look at it the following of the road and that's highlighted there and it comes down to our millage is at nine point about nine point nine six out of ten mills possible so we're handicapped on being able to raise a millage even if we could pass a millage in our township it'd be very difficult because we have over 20 special assessment districts right now which means they're paying why would they vote for a millage we have so many dirt roads that aren't going to get paved they wouldn't vote for a millage and we also have many private communities and that take care of their own roads they would so we're challenged even if we tried to pass a millage in five years when we start getting some of our bonds and millages off our books starting in 2030 and then 2032 to get something passed when we're capped like this is that another one okay millages may be used to fund debt but for the most voted to approve residents campus construction bonds state statute says that townships are limited to 10 10 mills even though that can be debated cities can go to 20 mills which means they have the ability to raise millages to pay for their roads as well as they're going to get direct funding from the state where the township doesn't it goes through the road commission of oakland county and then we have what's called the special assessment district which the acronym is sad which couldn't fit the description any better the townships are well below a legal limit credit rating is important we're carrying right now i believe it's about 40 million dollars 43 million dollars in debt on sads which can have an effect on our credit rating which is another subject we have to take into account do we want to continue to do carry the weight of special debt assessment districts even though there's a revenue source it is looked at on our s&p rating as debt to the debt to the township and then if you look at Expenditures by classification, you can see where we are for salary and wages, active benefits, supplies, contracted services, retiree benefits, capital outlay, and other. And we are very efficient at what we have to work with, but we have, we are working

  35. residents campus construction bonds state statute says that townships are limited to 10 10 mills even though that can be debated cities can go to 20 mills which means they have the ability to raise millages to pay for their roads as well as they're going to get direct funding from the state where the township doesn't it goes through the road commission of oakland county and then we have what's called the special assessment district which the acronym is sad which couldn't fit the description any better the townships are well below a legal limit credit rating is important we're carrying right now i believe it's about 40 million dollars 43 million dollars in debt on sads which can have an effect on our credit rating which is another subject we have to take into account do we want to continue to do carry the weight of special debt assessment districts even though there's a revenue source it is looked at on our s&p rating as debt to the debt to the township and then if you look at Expenditures by classification, you can see where we are for salary and wages, active benefits, supplies, contracted services, retiree benefits, capital outlay, and other. And we are very efficient at what we have to work with, but we have, we are working with 40-year-old roads. The road fund and the public safety fund rely on significant transfers from the general fund. Road fund transfers fluctuate year-to-year based on capital outlay, major costs, and our investments. Amounts also fluctuate based on available resources. Over the past 10 years, the general fund has supported the road fund with transferring $11.4 million in 2025 as $1.9 million, and in fiscal year 2026, we expect to be at $2.7 million. And again, this amount only allows us with what we transfer in, the millages that we collect, and the money we get from the Road Commission of Oakland County is to plow our roads, salt our roads, and repair and not replace, but fix two miles of roads in a township that has over 200 miles of roads. Is that the last one, Amber? Yeah. Okay. Any questions? Yes. I have a question about the payments from the county. I'd like to know, address why those are not increasing at the same rate as our property taxes. So when our...

  36. And we are very efficient at what we have to work with, but we have, we are working with 40-year-old roads. The road fund and the public safety fund rely on significant transfers from the general fund. Road fund transfers fluctuate year-to-year based on capital outlay, major costs, and our investments. Amounts also fluctuate based on available resources. Over the past 10 years, the general fund has supported the road fund with transferring $11.4 million in 2025 as $1.9 million, and in fiscal year 2026, we expect to be at $2.7 million. And again, this amount only allows us with what we transfer in, the millages that we collect, and the money we get from the Road Commission of Oakland County is to plow our roads, salt our roads, and repair and not replace, but fix two miles of roads in a township that has over 200 miles of roads. Is that the last one, Amber? Yeah. Okay. Any questions? Yes. I have a question about the payments from the county. I'd like to know, address why those are not increasing at the same rate as our property taxes. So when our... It's all in the Act 51. It's all been negotiated, so it's a fixed number for us. Every year? Yeah, every year, which I think it's a 2% increase. So even if they, like we got over a 7% increase, they just get to pocket it, and then the county says, we don't have enough money to help you. Yes, but the good thing about the Road Commission is, and I give them credit, they've taken care of our main roads for us, the Lone Pine, Long Lake. They did overlays. They've kept the main roads in good conditions. Interior roads, they just haven't had the money to put into it, and the state hasn't been able to invest in it, and we can't raise our millage rates, so we're kind of handcuffed. Yes, but we do have a second general fund millage, and the township has been able to accrue since 2021 $22 million in our capital improvement fund. That's right. So that's funds that are available to help us out. Mark, we're looking at building a new police department. We have to put a new fire station, and we have to fix our roads, and those would probably be our priority, and I'd like to pay for a new police station, a fire station eternally, if we could. Go ahead, Michael. Since we don't own the roads, we can't use those funds to replace them.

  37. It's all in the Act 51. It's all been negotiated, so it's a fixed number for us. Every year? Yeah, every year, which I think it's a 2% increase. So even if they, like we got over a 7% increase, they just get to pocket it, and then the county says, we don't have enough money to help you. Yes, but the good thing about the Road Commission is, and I give them credit, they've taken care of our main roads for us, the Lone Pine, Long Lake. They did overlays. They've kept the main roads in good conditions. Interior roads, they just haven't had the money to put into it, and the state hasn't been able to invest in it, and we can't raise our millage rates, so we're kind of handcuffed. Yes, but we do have a second general fund millage, and the township has been able to accrue since 2021 $22 million in our capital improvement fund. That's right. So that's funds that are available to help us out. Mark, we're looking at building a new police department. We have to put a new fire station, and we have to fix our roads, and those would probably be our priority, and I'd like to pay for a new police station, a fire station eternally, if we could. Go ahead, Michael. Since we don't own the roads, we can't use those funds to replace them. But we could do annual transfers to support the road fund. Not from the capital fund. Yeah, the capital fund, I think we're a little restricted. From the general fund. We did $7 million transfer last year to the capital. From the capital fund. From the capital fund. improvement fund from the general fund, those resources could be used for the road fund as well. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think they could, but we could take a look at it, Mark, but we're, we'd like to, our police department is, I don't know how familiar you are, but in that study, Redstone, did you read the Redstone report that came, was done about eight, 10 months ago, and just showed our police department, if you've walked down through there, our dispatch, for instance, sits in a room about half this size, four walls, they look at the jail cells, there's no windows, and the dispatchers are on 12-hour shifts, and they're crammed in. We don't have lockers for male and females, because when the building was built, starting in 1938, we've added on to three times, didn't accommodate these things. We're, we're short about 50% of the space we need. We need about 36,000 square feet for our police department, and we're working in a space under 18,000. Our fire department, luckily, central station's in good shape.

  38. Since we don't own the roads, we can't use those funds to replace them. But we could do annual transfers to support the road fund. Not from the capital fund. Yeah, the capital fund, I think we're a little restricted. From the general fund. We did $7 million transfer last year to the capital. From the capital fund. From the capital fund. improvement fund from the general fund, those resources could be used for the road fund as well. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think they could, but we could take a look at it, Mark, but we're, we'd like to, our police department is, I don't know how familiar you are, but in that study, Redstone, did you read the Redstone report that came, was done about eight, 10 months ago, and just showed our police department, if you've walked down through there, our dispatch, for instance, sits in a room about half this size, four walls, they look at the jail cells, there's no windows, and the dispatchers are on 12-hour shifts, and they're crammed in. We don't have lockers for male and females, because when the building was built, starting in 1938, we've added on to three times, didn't accommodate these things. We're, we're short about 50% of the space we need. We need about 36,000 square feet for our police department, and we're working in a space under 18,000. Our fire department, luckily, central station's in good shape. Station two and four are in pretty good shape, but it's our station three that's at Maple and Telegraph. That is extremely outdated. We can't put a proper ladder truck in there, and that's one of the main hubs that services many of our local neighborhoods, as in Birmingham Farms, Westchester Village, Bloomfield Village, Foxcroft, and they have to have backup. We were fortunate. We went to the state. We were able to negotiate through the budget to get about, I think it was one. how much did we get, a million and a half in the state's budget this year to help go towards our fire station. We asked for $12 million. We're going to go back to the state and try and get some more money to help pay for these things. But I'd like to talk about financing the new police department and fire station internally, and we have that money set aside in our capital fund, as you indicated, to pay for those things so that then we can focus on how to pay for roads, whether it's through a millage, through the road commission, or some other funding one way or another. But we have our work cut out for us on this issue. And what about the, in the actuaries for the pension, those are dropping off, I believe, around 2029. Those payments will start dropping in the pension.

  39. Our fire department, luckily, central station's in good shape. Station two and four are in pretty good shape, but it's our station three that's at Maple and Telegraph. That is extremely outdated. We can't put a proper ladder truck in there, and that's one of the main hubs that services many of our local neighborhoods, as in Birmingham Farms, Westchester Village, Bloomfield Village, Foxcroft, and they have to have backup. We were fortunate. We went to the state. We were able to negotiate through the budget to get about, I think it was one. how much did we get, a million and a half in the state's budget this year to help go towards our fire station. We asked for $12 million. We're going to go back to the state and try and get some more money to help pay for these things. But I'd like to talk about financing the new police department and fire station internally, and we have that money set aside in our capital fund, as you indicated, to pay for those things so that then we can focus on how to pay for roads, whether it's through a millage, through the road commission, or some other funding one way or another. But we have our work cut out for us on this issue. And what about the, in the actuaries for the pension, those are dropping off, I believe, around 2029. Those payments will start dropping in the pension. I think we start, is it, Michael? I don't think so. I don't know what that means, drop off. So, the actuaries, the milliman reports show expected payouts. And over the last five years, around 2028, 2029, the actuaries are showing that the actuarial determined contributions would be falling off. What about those funds coming available at that time frame? And, uh... We're not going to see a decrease in the ADC until the early part of the next decade. Yeah, about 2029, that's about five years off. You know, the middle part of the next decade, so... Which would be 2030. 2030. MR. 335. MR. 334. MR. Yeah. What will happen is we'll have some millage and bonds that come off in 2030 and 2032 that we could look at at that time. MR. Okay. Yeah. And I think we're at 89 percent funded in our pensions and we're 28 percent funded in our OPEB, which are our health care benefits. The state wants to see all communities at 40 percent, so we're constantly trying to put money aside. And there's also fluctuation in the market that affect that as well. And that was passed back in 2013 under the grand bargain when Detroit went bankrupt.

  40. Those payments will start dropping in the pension. I think we start, is it, Michael? I don't think so. I don't know what that means, drop off. So, the actuaries, the milliman reports show expected payouts. And over the last five years, around 2028, 2029, the actuaries are showing that the actuarial determined contributions would be falling off. What about those funds coming available at that time frame? And, uh... We're not going to see a decrease in the ADC until the early part of the next decade. Yeah, about 2029, that's about five years off. You know, the middle part of the next decade, so... Which would be 2030. 2030. MR. 335. MR. 334. MR. Yeah. What will happen is we'll have some millage and bonds that come off in 2030 and 2032 that we could look at at that time. MR. Okay. Yeah. And I think we're at 89 percent funded in our pensions and we're 28 percent funded in our OPEB, which are our health care benefits. The state wants to see all communities at 40 percent, so we're constantly trying to put money aside. And there's also fluctuation in the market that affect that as well. And that was passed back in 2013 under the grand bargain when Detroit went bankrupt. And there was state guaranteed the pensions. I think they ended up guaranteeing them at 90 percent, but as for the OPEB, which is the health care benefit, most of the employees were left with, I forget the number, but it's very low. And that's what instituted the 40 percent to bring everybody up to speed so we can cover some of the costs. And every community, many of the communities are still working to try and get that number up to the 40 percent. It's a challenge because you always have retirees. Someone retires, it only adds to that number. Any other questions? Not a question, but a point I wanted to make just briefly, which is the township has just sort of add this to the maybe another bullet point. It was 1950s when the township first created a road fund and the community members voted in a road fund in the 1950s. And it's been providing support of, you know, for weather, gravel, patching. It coordination should be in place for government registrarism. Let me move on to take this Dana-Ross system. So again, like that I would Starb Anda in that area that I community is doing it enough and I would handling that area of looking for public service. And, I hope that's kind of I will satisfy up the area, you know, in college they Patrickäche,hum,acle,ent full economy, Alan T. 09ま�áveis. For a very long time, the community has provided some support for that. So those, it's not like just a late, recent idea that we've been thinking about roads and trying to help them elongate their lifespan. Those investments over the time, over the long period of time the community has made, has helped them live longer.

  41. And that was passed back in 2013 under the grand bargain when Detroit went bankrupt. And there was state guaranteed the pensions. I think they ended up guaranteeing them at 90 percent, but as for the OPEB, which is the health care benefit, most of the employees were left with, I forget the number, but it's very low. And that's what instituted the 40 percent to bring everybody up to speed so we can cover some of the costs. And every community, many of the communities are still working to try and get that number up to the 40 percent. It's a challenge because you always have retirees. Someone retires, it only adds to that number. Any other questions? Not a question, but a point I wanted to make just briefly, which is the township has just sort of add this to the maybe another bullet point. It was 1950s when the township first created a road fund and the community members voted in a road fund in the 1950s. And it's been providing support of, you know, for weather, gravel, patching. It coordination should be in place for government registrarism. Let me move on to take this Dana-Ross system. So again, like that I would Starb Anda in that area that I community is doing it enough and I would handling that area of looking for public service. And, I hope that's kind of I will satisfy up the area, you know, in college they Patrickäche,hum,acle,ent full economy, Alan T. 09ま�áveis. For a very long time, the community has provided some support for that. So those, it's not like just a late, recent idea that we've been thinking about roads and trying to help them elongate their lifespan. Those investments over the time, over the long period of time the community has made, has helped them live longer. They're really, really past their prime now, but they have actually survived much longer than anticipated and much longer than would have been expected from the roads when they were built. And some of that's because of the contributions the community has made since the 50s to do things, the preventative maintenance, like the patching and so forth. We're very fortunate to have a DPW department that we can send out and do some things, even though it's a small amount. Every little bit helps at this point. Okay. Any other questions? Is there another? Jeff, Jeff Hockman. Come on up, Jeff. Good evening. I'm Jeff Hockman. I've been a resident of the township for over nine years, and I'm going to kind of do the wrap up of what you've heard tonight, and then we'll get into any questions you may have. So the first slide, please. This is just stating what we've talked about in the past. The key is we're at our max millage, and we really have no capacity to continue to do any funding from where we sit today, and so that is our only option, and it's been the SADs, which we've talked about. Next slide, please. This talks about the road division. We have the 213 miles of paved road 37 in that list of services.

  42. has helped them live longer. They're really, really past their prime now, but they have actually survived much longer than anticipated and much longer than would have been expected from the roads when they were built. And some of that's because of the contributions the community has made since the 50s to do things, the preventative maintenance, like the patching and so forth. We're very fortunate to have a DPW department that we can send out and do some things, even though it's a small amount. Every little bit helps at this point. Okay. Any other questions? Is there another? Jeff, Jeff Hockman. Come on up, Jeff. Good evening. I'm Jeff Hockman. I've been a resident of the township for over nine years, and I'm going to kind of do the wrap up of what you've heard tonight, and then we'll get into any questions you may have. So the first slide, please. This is just stating what we've talked about in the past. The key is we're at our max millage, and we really have no capacity to continue to do any funding from where we sit today, and so that is our only option, and it's been the SADs, which we've talked about. Next slide, please. This talks about the road division. We have the 213 miles of paved road 37 in that list of services. that we're providing. The key here is we're not doing any replacement of the roads, the reconstruction of the local neighborhood roads. You know, it's just a kind of a patching and keeping crack sealing and doing salt removal. It's not getting at the fundamental issue as all these maps have shown in the deterioration. Next slide, please. This just summarizes the SADs, which you're familiar with. There's 23 of them, and the last ones we've just done for the village, they're now coming in at over $4 million per mile. So the cost to move these roads go up every year, and they're significant, and they're a significant burden on the homeowners. Next slide. The one thing the township has done is really help on this is to provide the SAD funding through the bond issues that we talked about, and those have run 10 to 15 years, which helps, obviously, the payment, but still is the obligation and the payment of the homeowner. The other thing, just a little sidelight. However, SAD monies are not deductible from their taxes. So you pay on the tax bill, but you cannot deduct it, which seems editorializing very unfair. The current outstanding balance of that for the township

  43. that we're providing. The key here is we're not doing any replacement of the roads, the reconstruction of the local neighborhood roads. You know, it's just a kind of a patching and keeping crack sealing and doing salt removal. It's not getting at the fundamental issue as all these maps have shown in the deterioration. Next slide, please. This just summarizes the SADs, which you're familiar with. There's 23 of them, and the last ones we've just done for the village, they're now coming in at over $4 million per mile. So the cost to move these roads go up every year, and they're significant, and they're a significant burden on the homeowners. Next slide. The one thing the township has done is really help on this is to provide the SAD funding through the bond issues that we talked about, and those have run 10 to 15 years, which helps, obviously, the payment, but still is the obligation and the payment of the homeowner. The other thing, just a little sidelight. However, SAD monies are not deductible from their taxes. So you pay on the tax bill, but you cannot deduct it, which seems editorializing very unfair. The current outstanding balance of that for the township is $56 million. And you have to start wondering at what point can the township continue to fund the SADs to the extent they want to do it and how it affects your bond rating, your credit rating. So all those have to do it. Thank you. to come into consideration and it's not just a unlimited future to continue to have the township do that so you know the other thing is the sads are reaching such a high price per property or per homeowner at a 50 to 60 thousand dollars of the recent ones at the village that this is not continuing and viable to do and it's not realistic next slide please and so what the road commission has been funding has been funded through act 51 we talked about for over 74 years and they're receiving the state gas and registration fees that we've talked about where does that money go we've been talking about it but i think to summarize those funds 39 go to the state 39 go to the road commissions throughout the state and 22 go to city and village the key is townships are excluded and received no funding from the pa 51s which is as we as uh people who use our vehicles think about

  44. The current outstanding balance of that for the township is $56 million. And you have to start wondering at what point can the township continue to fund the SADs to the extent they want to do it and how it affects your bond rating, your credit rating. So all those have to do it. Thank you. to come into consideration and it's not just a unlimited future to continue to have the township do that so you know the other thing is the sads are reaching such a high price per property or per homeowner at a 50 to 60 thousand dollars of the recent ones at the village that this is not continuing and viable to do and it's not realistic next slide please and so what the road commission has been funding has been funded through act 51 we talked about for over 74 years and they're receiving the state gas and registration fees that we've talked about where does that money go we've been talking about it but i think to summarize those funds 39 go to the state 39 go to the road commissions throughout the state and 22 go to city and village the key is townships are excluded and received no funding from the pa 51s which is as we as uh people who use our vehicles think about we're paying gas tax at the pump we're paying our registration fees we drive over here in the in the township and we receive absolutely zero money it's going elsewhere so that's you know it's something we need to talk about so that's just kind of the wrap up i wanted to do uh and jeff salts will now will talk about the next steps are there any questions on that thank you thank you so you've heard a lot of there's a lot of information here that's why it's taken six months to collect it lot here. As I said, it's very complex, and it's still moving. It's a moving target, actually. But before I wrap this up, we're almost done. I just want to add something that there's no slide for. I want to thank the members of this committee for putting in the hard work that they've done up to this point, for that, for the hours they've spent, and also for the commitment to see this through to the end, which we don't know what the end is going to be and when it will be, but they've committed to that. And for them, I want to thank everybody. So this is where we are today. As you can see, as I said earlier, it's very complicated. We still don't know exactly how the new state budget will change and the funding will shake out. There are no easy solutions, so what's next? Okay, so the next thing we

  45. received no funding from the pa 51s which is as we as uh people who use our vehicles think about we're paying gas tax at the pump we're paying our registration fees we drive over here in the in the township and we receive absolutely zero money it's going elsewhere so that's you know it's something we need to talk about so that's just kind of the wrap up i wanted to do uh and jeff salts will now will talk about the next steps are there any questions on that thank you thank you so you've heard a lot of there's a lot of information here that's why it's taken six months to collect it lot here. As I said, it's very complex, and it's still moving. It's a moving target, actually. But before I wrap this up, we're almost done. I just want to add something that there's no slide for. I want to thank the members of this committee for putting in the hard work that they've done up to this point, for that, for the hours they've spent, and also for the commitment to see this through to the end, which we don't know what the end is going to be and when it will be, but they've committed to that. And for them, I want to thank everybody. So this is where we are today. As you can see, as I said earlier, it's very complicated. We still don't know exactly how the new state budget will change and the funding will shake out. There are no easy solutions, so what's next? Okay, so the next thing we have to do, the next phase, is we need to analyze the information that we've collected. Analyze the impact of the new state budget, we'll meet again with the Royal County, the Road Commission for Oakland County, and we'll meet again with the impacted Bloomfield Township departments to see how this new budget, this new funding is going to affect everything. Then we'll consider options available to the Township. I'm not going to go into any of those now because we have no idea, but we'll talk about it. And we talked about a blank sheet of paper, so nothing's off the table for us to discuss. And so we'll consider those options. And then we'll, the next, the last thing we have to do, we'll develop recommendations for the Board of Trustees with the hopes of presenting these in early early 2026. So we'll come up with some of these, come up with some suggestions, perhaps, some ways of mitigating this problem, then we're going to put it in your lap. Then you are the ones that are going to decide what to do with it. We're just, as an advisory committee, we're just going to bring those things to you. So hopefully, we haven't got a timetable yet for when we'll finish this, as I said, early 2026, so I would just say, you've got to stay tuned. We'll report back to you again when we're ready with more information, and I thank you

  46. will shake out. There are no easy solutions, so what's next? Okay, so the next thing we have to do, the next phase, is we need to analyze the information that we've collected. Analyze the impact of the new state budget, we'll meet again with the Royal County, the Road Commission for Oakland County, and we'll meet again with the impacted Bloomfield Township departments to see how this new budget, this new funding is going to affect everything. Then we'll consider options available to the Township. I'm not going to go into any of those now because we have no idea, but we'll talk about it. And we talked about a blank sheet of paper, so nothing's off the table for us to discuss. And so we'll consider those options. And then we'll, the next, the last thing we have to do, we'll develop recommendations for the Board of Trustees with the hopes of presenting these in early early 2026. So we'll come up with some of these, come up with some suggestions, perhaps, some ways of mitigating this problem, then we're going to put it in your lap. Then you are the ones that are going to decide what to do with it. We're just, as an advisory committee, we're just going to bring those things to you. So hopefully, we haven't got a timetable yet for when we'll finish this, as I said, early 2026, so I would just say, you've got to stay tuned. We'll report back to you again when we're ready with more information, and I thank you very much. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Jeff. Thank all of us. Thank you, Jeff, John, Jeff, Steve, Mindy, Gary. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks a lot. We'll look forward to the next presentation. One other thing I want to mention, too, which is the Commission, in a spirit of transparency and openness, the Commission meets publicly in this room. The meetings are noticed and posted on our website. Anyone who wants to come, there's public comment, and you're welcome to come and communicate with the Commission when they have their meetings. So I just want to thank you all again for the effort and the transparency in your work. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Martin. All right. We'll move on to item number five. Consider approval of site plan requests for Jack's Car Wash at 4025 Telegraph Road, presented by Andrea Bibby, our Director of Planning and Building Orient. Hi. Good evening. Thank you. Thank you. So what I have before you this evening is a presentation of a reuse of existing Bloomfield Car Wash. Thank you. Can you go to the beginning, Amber, of the slide? Thank you. Okay, and then I can just go through it if it's a, yeah. I'll just do it. Thank you. Okay, so the applicant this evening is proposing to convert the existing longstanding auto wash located at 4025 Telegraph Road to a Jack's car wash.

  47. We'll report back to you again when we're ready with more information, and I thank you very much. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Jeff. Thank all of us. Thank you, Jeff, John, Jeff, Steve, Mindy, Gary. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks a lot. We'll look forward to the next presentation. One other thing I want to mention, too, which is the Commission, in a spirit of transparency and openness, the Commission meets publicly in this room. The meetings are noticed and posted on our website. Anyone who wants to come, there's public comment, and you're welcome to come and communicate with the Commission when they have their meetings. So I just want to thank you all again for the effort and the transparency in your work. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Martin. All right. We'll move on to item number five. Consider approval of site plan requests for Jack's Car Wash at 4025 Telegraph Road, presented by Andrea Bibby, our Director of Planning and Building Orient. Hi. Good evening. Thank you. Thank you. So what I have before you this evening is a presentation of a reuse of existing Bloomfield Car Wash. Thank you. Can you go to the beginning, Amber, of the slide? Thank you. Okay, and then I can just go through it if it's a, yeah. I'll just do it. Thank you. Okay, so the applicant this evening is proposing to convert the existing longstanding auto wash located at 4025 Telegraph Road to a Jack's car wash. Highlighted on your screen here, you can see the intersection. It's at the northeast corner of Long Lake and Telegraph. I think we're all pretty familiar with the site, the existing car wash located immediately south of the gas station there at the corner. The site plan was reviewed in regards to any site changes and modifications. Since this is a new use and a new branding, we wanted to have an opportunity to review the site as it currently operates, as well as have a better understanding of how the proposed operations are to occur. There are no changes to the existing building footprint. Just to touch base on this map, you can see highlighted here that B3 is the zoning classification and auto laundries are considered a permitted use within the B3 classification. And then here is just an aerial highlighting the site within the township. Okay, so moving on, as I stated, there's no changes to the existing footprint. There are going to be some slight modifications, which includes removing the existing outdoor air vacuums, which actually brings the location further into compliance, as our ordinance does require that. that's our ordinance does require that.

  48. located at 4025 Telegraph Road to a Jack's car wash. Highlighted on your screen here, you can see the intersection. It's at the northeast corner of Long Lake and Telegraph. I think we're all pretty familiar with the site, the existing car wash located immediately south of the gas station there at the corner. The site plan was reviewed in regards to any site changes and modifications. Since this is a new use and a new branding, we wanted to have an opportunity to review the site as it currently operates, as well as have a better understanding of how the proposed operations are to occur. There are no changes to the existing building footprint. Just to touch base on this map, you can see highlighted here that B3 is the zoning classification and auto laundries are considered a permitted use within the B3 classification. And then here is just an aerial highlighting the site within the township. Okay, so moving on, as I stated, there's no changes to the existing footprint. There are going to be some slight modifications, which includes removing the existing outdoor air vacuums, which actually brings the location further into compliance, as our ordinance does require that. that's our ordinance does require that. car auto car laundries are required to be fully enclosed and some of the newer operations that have come to the township and new site plans you can you may recall our interior so as part of that site modification of removing the on site vacuums operations will function as an express wash with typical vehicle processing times being increased and on-site circulation allowing now for two queuing lanes for two proposed canopies which is I'm seeing highlighted on your screen in terms of allowing for now to queuing aisles to occur as opposed to the current one which is one the site itself is actually only point two zero acres again located within the b3 zoning classification the site is not proposing any changes to the existing municipal water sanitary sewer and no extensions are proposed in terms of the minimal cosmetic work which is to occur to the site the applicant is proposing to do some new metal coping adding some new tile as well some new metal panels they're going to integrate LED lighting at the pay stations which is going to be directed downward and you can see as shown on

  49. car auto car laundries are required to be fully enclosed and some of the newer operations that have come to the township and new site plans you can you may recall our interior so as part of that site modification of removing the on site vacuums operations will function as an express wash with typical vehicle processing times being increased and on-site circulation allowing now for two queuing lanes for two proposed canopies which is I'm seeing highlighted on your screen in terms of allowing for now to queuing aisles to occur as opposed to the current one which is one the site itself is actually only point two zero acres again located within the b3 zoning classification the site is not proposing any changes to the existing municipal water sanitary sewer and no extensions are proposed in terms of the minimal cosmetic work which is to occur to the site the applicant is proposing to do some new metal coping adding some new tile as well some new metal panels they're going to integrate LED lighting at the pay stations which is going to be directed downward and you can see as shown on the proposed elevations at the color coloring and the design of the Jack's proposed Jack's car wash is to remain however along the south elevator you you the applicant will be removing some of the existing panels there and they'll be installing some new glass paneling in that location but in general you can see that the overall design and aesthetic of the building is pretty much to remain the same they are however investing in some improved machinery as well as improving the the site overall in terms of their of their operations as I stated earlier the site circulation which has been provided as I stated many of us are familiar with the site the applicant is proposing to add two of these canopies pay stations one of which these are meant to read your vehicle license plates and if you have a membership to Jack's car wash this does allow for quick and easy access with also improving the on-site circulation with the timeliness the circulation pattern remains exactly substantially the same as the existing

  50. stations which is going to be directed downward and you can see as shown on the proposed elevations at the color coloring and the design of the Jack's proposed Jack's car wash is to remain however along the south elevator you you the applicant will be removing some of the existing panels there and they'll be installing some new glass paneling in that location but in general you can see that the overall design and aesthetic of the building is pretty much to remain the same they are however investing in some improved machinery as well as improving the the site overall in terms of their of their operations as I stated earlier the site circulation which has been provided as I stated many of us are familiar with the site the applicant is proposing to add two of these canopies pay stations one of which these are meant to read your vehicle license plates and if you have a membership to Jack's car wash this does allow for quick and easy access with also improving the on-site circulation with the timeliness the circulation pattern remains exactly substantially the same as the existing with the queuing organized as the new pay stations and a short travel path through the wash on the applicant has indicated and the site plan does show the ability to stack up to 15 cars on site as well as it does allow for the three which can go into the tunnel at the same time so I just wanted to tell you that this was reviewed by our traffic engineer I know that we're all very familiar with the site and the applicant did provide Fishbeck Engineering, which is the township's traffic engineer, an example using, they did provide data of another Jack's Car Wash, which was also rebranded within Royal Oak on Woodward Avenue, and that our traffic engineer reviewed that data from that site for four days, indicating that the peak operational time for this operation is between April and May, and the data shows that the maximum number of customers is taken at a weekday noon peak hour, and that peak operation is stating, based on that data that was provided, a total of 41 cars that would, during that peak time,

  51. circulation pattern remains exactly substantially the same as the existing with the queuing organized as the new pay stations and a short travel path through the wash on the applicant has indicated and the site plan does show the ability to stack up to 15 cars on site as well as it does allow for the three which can go into the tunnel at the same time so I just wanted to tell you that this was reviewed by our traffic engineer I know that we're all very familiar with the site and the applicant did provide Fishbeck Engineering, which is the township's traffic engineer, an example using, they did provide data of another Jack's Car Wash, which was also rebranded within Royal Oak on Woodward Avenue, and that our traffic engineer reviewed that data from that site for four days, indicating that the peak operational time for this operation is between April and May, and the data shows that the maximum number of customers is taken at a weekday noon peak hour, and that peak operation is stating, based on that data that was provided, a total of 41 cars that would, during that peak time, that would go through the car wash, and again, our traffic engineer does not feel that there's gonna be any concerns related to the queuing, and also noting, the applicant has noted that they do have two dedicated staff members who are continuously drying cars and directing exit traffic to ensure a quicker turnaround, reduce wait times, and prevent congestion, and optimize vehicle movement. That being said, the request is to operate Monday through Saturday from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m., which is in align with our permitted hours of operation within township, and also seeking to operate on Sundays from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. PM. They do state that they have an advanced license plate recognition for fast entry and exit. The system identifies members immediately, eliminating delays and significantly improving transaction speed and customer service. A comprehensive traffic study detailed project impact and mitigation strategies have been submitted. And they've also provided the attached pay station installation, which has also been included. And I have provided an example of such pay station. Oh, I did. I must have taken out a PowerPoint. Well, there is the drawing of it.

  52. a total of 41 cars that would, during that peak time, that would go through the car wash, and again, our traffic engineer does not feel that there's gonna be any concerns related to the queuing, and also noting, the applicant has noted that they do have two dedicated staff members who are continuously drying cars and directing exit traffic to ensure a quicker turnaround, reduce wait times, and prevent congestion, and optimize vehicle movement. That being said, the request is to operate Monday through Saturday from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m., which is in align with our permitted hours of operation within township, and also seeking to operate on Sundays from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. PM. They do state that they have an advanced license plate recognition for fast entry and exit. The system identifies members immediately, eliminating delays and significantly improving transaction speed and customer service. A comprehensive traffic study detailed project impact and mitigation strategies have been submitted. And they've also provided the attached pay station installation, which has also been included. And I have provided an example of such pay station. Oh, I did. I must have taken out a PowerPoint. Well, there is the drawing of it. It's not showing the rendering exactly in color, but that is the drawing of what the typical canopy in two of these would be located within a new parking island, a new cement or a concrete island, if you will, which will locate those canopies. So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions. I do want to note that there's no signage being proposed at this time. The applicant would have to come back in the future when they're looking to change out their signage. It'd have to go back to the design review board. And then depending on their application, whether or not they would have to go to the zoning board of appeals. But from my understanding and conversations with the applicant, they are looking to reuse the existing monument sign. That is a relatively new sign that was installed just within the last couple of years. So they are looking to just reuse that sign. But however, the change in that design would require a DRB review. This did go before. It was reviewed by engineering and environmental services. I'm noting they have no issues the fire department has also reviewed the application and there's no proposed alterations to landscaping as we know the site there's very limited opportunity for any landscaping I think the more room that is provided for skewing site circulation is more

  53. such pay station. Oh, I did. I must have taken out a PowerPoint. Well, there is the drawing of it. It's not showing the rendering exactly in color, but that is the drawing of what the typical canopy in two of these would be located within a new parking island, a new cement or a concrete island, if you will, which will locate those canopies. So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions. I do want to note that there's no signage being proposed at this time. The applicant would have to come back in the future when they're looking to change out their signage. It'd have to go back to the design review board. And then depending on their application, whether or not they would have to go to the zoning board of appeals. But from my understanding and conversations with the applicant, they are looking to reuse the existing monument sign. That is a relatively new sign that was installed just within the last couple of years. So they are looking to just reuse that sign. But however, the change in that design would require a DRB review. This did go before. It was reviewed by engineering and environmental services. I'm noting they have no issues the fire department has also reviewed the application and there's no proposed alterations to landscaping as we know the site there's very limited opportunity for any landscaping I think the more room that is provided for skewing site circulation is more important than we do have existing conditions that are nonconformity so with that we have the applicant here and I can certainly answer any questions and then we also have some photographs I'm showing the existing car wash layout okay thank you Andrea you're welcome any questions for Andrea or the applicant hi go ahead and introduce yourself Frank Toma Jack's car wash developer nice article on cranes today about Jack's congratulations thank you any questions no I'm just gonna just say that you certainly made the efforts to improve the queuing there by having the two pay stations I know they work very quickly and also removing the the vacuums so so there's fewer cars there so I think between those taking those steps I really don't have any concerns about the queuing issue plus there's another Jack's down the street you know there's some other car washes being built in the township so I think between all of that it should take care of itself sure and looking forward to having it there thank you I do want to touch upon the staff parking that the I just want to let the board know that the community the the the

  54. the more room that is provided for skewing site circulation is more important than we do have existing conditions that are nonconformity so with that we have the applicant here and I can certainly answer any questions and then we also have some photographs I'm showing the existing car wash layout okay thank you Andrea you're welcome any questions for Andrea or the applicant hi go ahead and introduce yourself Frank Toma Jack's car wash developer nice article on cranes today about Jack's congratulations thank you any questions no I'm just gonna just say that you certainly made the efforts to improve the queuing there by having the two pay stations I know they work very quickly and also removing the the vacuums so so there's fewer cars there so I think between those taking those steps I really don't have any concerns about the queuing issue plus there's another Jack's down the street you know there's some other car washes being built in the township so I think between all of that it should take care of itself sure and looking forward to having it there thank you I do want to touch upon the staff parking that the I just want to let the board know that the community the the the The gas station located immediately to the north does have an easement agreement with the auto wash that does require that gas station to provide the required two parking spaces. That was something that occurred a few years back when they did the lot split. So just to answer any question about staff parking, as we know the site, they will be required and are allowed to have two spaces at the adjacent gas station. Again, thank you for coming to the township. Glad you can invest here. I think it's going to be a great location for you. I echo what Trustee Barnett said about the queuing. I think it's going to be a great thing. And obviously if there were any issues with it, you guys don't want your customers having problems or not getting in. Your goal is to get them through as quickly as possible. And I imagine we can make adjustments if there was a problem. Correct. Thank you. Thank you very much. We look forward to having you guys here. Appreciate it. Okay. Any other questions? If not, I'll entertain a motion. Make a motion that we approve as submitted. Support. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. It passes 7-0. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you. Welcome to the township. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Andrea. Okay. Item number 6. Martin? Item number 6 is a request to go into a closed session and to discuss written legal opinion.

  55. The gas station located immediately to the north does have an easement agreement with the auto wash that does require that gas station to provide the required two parking spaces. That was something that occurred a few years back when they did the lot split. So just to answer any question about staff parking, as we know the site, they will be required and are allowed to have two spaces at the adjacent gas station. Again, thank you for coming to the township. Glad you can invest here. I think it's going to be a great location for you. I echo what Trustee Barnett said about the queuing. I think it's going to be a great thing. And obviously if there were any issues with it, you guys don't want your customers having problems or not getting in. Your goal is to get them through as quickly as possible. And I imagine we can make adjustments if there was a problem. Correct. Thank you. Thank you very much. We look forward to having you guys here. Appreciate it. Okay. Any other questions? If not, I'll entertain a motion. Make a motion that we approve as submitted. Support. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. It passes 7-0. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you. Welcome to the township. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Andrea. Okay. Item number 6. Martin? Item number 6 is a request to go into a closed session and to discuss written legal opinion. And the motion I'd like to make is that we enter closed session pursuant to MCL 15.26818 to discuss material exempt from discussion or disclosure by state and federal... statute specifically an attorney client privilege written legal opinion and we need a roll call vote if i get a second let me support that motion yeah support okay and they'll do a roll call vote martin uh trustee barnett yes trustee murray yes trustee and tockley yes uh trustee kolinsky yes uh treasurer show stack yes i mean yes and supervisor mccready yes carries seven zero okay so we move to closed session and then we'll return after yes all right thank you to be fine. the foia has a statement to make uh the we discussed the issue in uh private session um that my requirement my request in my the foia was met uh and i would like to thank the board for

  56. and to discuss written legal opinion. And the motion I'd like to make is that we enter closed session pursuant to MCL 15.26818 to discuss material exempt from discussion or disclosure by state and federal... statute specifically an attorney client privilege written legal opinion and we need a roll call vote if i get a second let me support that motion yeah support okay and they'll do a roll call vote martin uh trustee barnett yes trustee murray yes trustee and tockley yes uh trustee kolinsky yes uh treasurer show stack yes i mean yes and supervisor mccready yes carries seven zero okay so we move to closed session and then we'll return after yes all right thank you to be fine. the foia has a statement to make uh the we discussed the issue in uh private session um that my requirement my request in my the foia was met uh and i would like to thank the board for uh reviewing the information and i appreciate the time they took okay and you're withdrawing your appeal uh yes and i'm or the foia has been met uh therefore i'm withdrawing my appeal okay thank you perfect okay um items number we'll do 6a and then 6b and um 6a would actually be from 2c approve the uh... extension of a lights construction unit uh... pricing for the 2025 asphalt resurfacing program. Mark, you had a question on that? Yeah, I was hoping the road committee would provide some insight on the expenses. Since that wasn't covered during the meeting, we can proceed with approving the... Okay, I'll take that as a motion. Do you mind if I actually just one thing on that? Again, in this, we'd actually budgeted three or a thousand dollars for this. It actually came in under budget. They came in under, yeah. So again, a great thing working with a great contractor. And because we found some extra money, we're gonna do some more resurfacing in this. Again, positive thing, working with a good contractor. They didn't just try to get to the budget amount and just pad the costs. They went to that amount, stuck to it, and did quality work. This is a great thing, I'm glad we can do it.

  57. um that my requirement my request in my the foia was met uh and i would like to thank the board for uh reviewing the information and i appreciate the time they took okay and you're withdrawing your appeal uh yes and i'm or the foia has been met uh therefore i'm withdrawing my appeal okay thank you perfect okay um items number we'll do 6a and then 6b and um 6a would actually be from 2c approve the uh... extension of a lights construction unit uh... pricing for the 2025 asphalt resurfacing program. Mark, you had a question on that? Yeah, I was hoping the road committee would provide some insight on the expenses. Since that wasn't covered during the meeting, we can proceed with approving the... Okay, I'll take that as a motion. Do you mind if I actually just one thing on that? Again, in this, we'd actually budgeted three or a thousand dollars for this. It actually came in under budget. They came in under, yeah. So again, a great thing working with a great contractor. And because we found some extra money, we're gonna do some more resurfacing in this. Again, positive thing, working with a good contractor. They didn't just try to get to the budget amount and just pad the costs. They went to that amount, stuck to it, and did quality work. This is a great thing, I'm glad we can do it. Great point. Okay, Mark, I'll take that as a motion. Support. Support, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes seven to nothing. Okay, then we'll take on item number 6B, which is approved payroll vouchers for October 13th. Mark? Just my standing objection stays. I would really like to understand the fund balances, especially for the general fund in December time period. I realize our taxes aren't collected till February, but we do need to have an understanding of where we're at. And none of that is clear at this time, therefore I'm voting no. Any other comments? Any other comments? Any other comments? Thanks. You're welcome at any time to come and meet with the staff here and have all your questions answered as usual. Motion to approve. Support. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nay. Six to one. Okay, move for adjourned. All in favor say aye. Aye. We are adjourned. Thank you, everyone.